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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kiehtan" data-source="post: 3747385" data-attributes="member: 4273"><p>The closest thing I can find that would seem to support my theory that you decide on a save after the spell is cast and it begins affecting you would be the resurrection type spells. You are dead, your soul is on another plane of existence. Someone on the Prime Material casts resurrection. You did not know they were gonna cast it. You did not see it go off. You did not choose to save against the spell. But the spell goes off, it begins to affect you, to draw you back to the Prime. If you don't want to go, the spell fails, but you can't choose to not want to go until after the spell is cast and attempts to get a hold of you. All you know is that a priest of whatever god is trying to draw you back and you decide to fight it. I would say the Slay Living spell is similar. All you know is that a spell is attemptig to snuff out your life force and you can choose to fight it (make a save) or die. I would not modify the save one way or another because he was "taken by surprise." The soul being resurrected is just as much being taken by surprise, but he gets no penality to his decision to allow or disallow the resurrection.</p></blockquote><p></p>