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<blockquote data-quote="Moon-Lancer" data-source="post: 2785680" data-attributes="member: 35798"><p>I think a spell book for a wizard is ok. WHY? because its a class feature. Its the essence of the caster. They start with the spell book. A warrior doesn’t start with a sword. A wizard gets 2 free spells every level. </p><p></p><p>What wouldn’t be ok is if a wizard tried to scribe spells into his spell book that were not the 2 spells a level given by the class. </p><p></p><p>If a wizard lost his spell book that he got at level 1, he couldn’t fork up the gold to get a new one because that’s not apart of what the wizard was granted because of his class level.</p><p></p><p>The wizard is an exception because he starts with the spell book. he never bought it, he just has it. </p><p></p><p>Now the question of value comes into play</p><p></p><p>If vop was just about monetary value, how come they can use a crossbow? (that said, i don’t think cross bows should be allowed by a vop character)</p><p></p><p>If vop was just about intrinsic value, how come a druid’s holy symbol (holly 0g) is not ok? or a clerics wooden holy symbol? (that said I think they are ok, even though they are not listed)</p><p></p><p>What type of value is ok? What type of value not ok?</p><p></p><p>Its really up to the dm</p><p></p><p>Quite frankly vop comes out of the box with the requirement that house rules are added to it. But that is the way of mature games and exaltedness. </p><p></p><p>raw dosent apply well to boed and thus people think its a broken book. I like the book, and I play with it just fine. I don’t think raw is the end all and be all of d&d. Raw can break the rules just as easily as not reading the rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Moon-Lancer, post: 2785680, member: 35798"] I think a spell book for a wizard is ok. WHY? because its a class feature. Its the essence of the caster. They start with the spell book. A warrior doesn’t start with a sword. A wizard gets 2 free spells every level. What wouldn’t be ok is if a wizard tried to scribe spells into his spell book that were not the 2 spells a level given by the class. If a wizard lost his spell book that he got at level 1, he couldn’t fork up the gold to get a new one because that’s not apart of what the wizard was granted because of his class level. The wizard is an exception because he starts with the spell book. he never bought it, he just has it. Now the question of value comes into play If vop was just about monetary value, how come they can use a crossbow? (that said, i don’t think cross bows should be allowed by a vop character) If vop was just about intrinsic value, how come a druid’s holy symbol (holly 0g) is not ok? or a clerics wooden holy symbol? (that said I think they are ok, even though they are not listed) What type of value is ok? What type of value not ok? Its really up to the dm Quite frankly vop comes out of the box with the requirement that house rules are added to it. But that is the way of mature games and exaltedness. raw dosent apply well to boed and thus people think its a broken book. I like the book, and I play with it just fine. I don’t think raw is the end all and be all of d&d. Raw can break the rules just as easily as not reading the rules. [/QUOTE]
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