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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2786905" data-attributes="member: 31734">Actually, it does as my quote proved.  The two free spells are explicitly "to add to her spellbook." He could, but not and maintain the VoP feat. What's the point? I see you quoting Spellcraft, but you make no point on it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Agreed. A wizard can scribe the spell after learning it, as part of learning it.  You pointed out that this is a choice that need not actually occur and that the wizard could do that in order to qualify for Spell Mastery (which only stipulates that the wizard know a spell).  I agree, but the VoP wizard can't use the scrolls or spellbooks in the first place, right? Or Spell Mastery, yes.In Summary, IMO:1. A VoP wizard can't have a spellbook.  That alone is enough to say no go, pick another character concept.  But, assuming that you allow the VoP to have his one free spellbook, the remaining points are valid.2. A VoP wizard cannot use scrolls or others' spellbooks, thus rendering Spell Mastery useless.3. A VoP wizard with a spellbook can scribe his two free spells per level into his spellbook, but he'll run out of room eventually.4. A VoP cannot replace his free spellbook with one that is not part of the class.  This is distinction from someone just giving him a free spellbook.  I don't think anyone would think that the VoP character (of any class) could have/use anything if only it were free.5. The two free spells must be scribed in his spellbook.Does that about cover it?  Clearly, a wizard is not a viable class for VoP.  This is not any different than a fighter not being a viable class for Empower Spell. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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