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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2788222" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>And yet you can have a crossbow that is 2 times the value of a blank spellbook. The items a VoP PC may carry are not based on absolute value of material items.</p><p></p><p>IMHO, VoP is broken- not in terms of its effects, but in its poorly worded drafting. My opinion is not based on what it does (RAW) to a wizard & his spellbook, but rather to the divine spellcasters and their divine foci.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=155084&page=6" target="_blank">A different VOP thread</a> in which I said the following:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Example:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The point? VoP is, IMHO, seriously flawed in regards to divine spellcasters, gutting them. That it does a similar number on Wizards is no surprise to me, and is (to me) an indicator that it is similarly flawed in respect to them.</p><p></p><p>There are plenty of ways to play VoP without gutting the spellcasters.</p><p></p><p><strong>YES</strong>, I know what VoP says RAW. I just don't think that it was intended to be written as it was- see above quotes.</p><p></p><p>(Someone on another thread about this stated that the guy who drafted VoP stated that spellbooks and divine foci were not intended to be excised- he messed up- but I have yet to see an <em>actual quote or link</em> to that effect.)</p><p>+++</p><p>RE: Spell Mastery- A 16 Int Human Wizard takes Spell Mastery at 1st level, along with VoP. He can learn 2 spells. He will not be able to learn any more spells until 3rd level, when he becomes eligible to take Spell Mastery Again.</p><p></p><p>What are the odds that a Wizard who can only cast 2 spells will make it to 3rd level? Lets say he does...he learns 2 more spells, and will now have access to 4 spells until he makes 6th level.</p><p></p><p>What are the odds he'll live that long?</p><p>+++</p><p></p><p>I know you're kidding, but I still disagree.</p><p></p><p>I once based a PC on a character from the comic book <em>Archer & Armstrong</em> (one was an Immortal, one was a monk). The comic-book monk had been kicked out of the monestary, ending his training. Ditto my PC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2788222, member: 19675"] And yet you can have a crossbow that is 2 times the value of a blank spellbook. The items a VoP PC may carry are not based on absolute value of material items. IMHO, VoP is broken- not in terms of its effects, but in its poorly worded drafting. My opinion is not based on what it does (RAW) to a wizard & his spellbook, but rather to the divine spellcasters and their divine foci. [URL=http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=155084&page=6]A different VOP thread[/URL] in which I said the following: Example: The point? VoP is, IMHO, seriously flawed in regards to divine spellcasters, gutting them. That it does a similar number on Wizards is no surprise to me, and is (to me) an indicator that it is similarly flawed in respect to them. There are plenty of ways to play VoP without gutting the spellcasters. [B]YES[/B], I know what VoP says RAW. I just don't think that it was intended to be written as it was- see above quotes. (Someone on another thread about this stated that the guy who drafted VoP stated that spellbooks and divine foci were not intended to be excised- he messed up- but I have yet to see an [I]actual quote or link[/I] to that effect.) +++ RE: Spell Mastery- A 16 Int Human Wizard takes Spell Mastery at 1st level, along with VoP. He can learn 2 spells. He will not be able to learn any more spells until 3rd level, when he becomes eligible to take Spell Mastery Again. What are the odds that a Wizard who can only cast 2 spells will make it to 3rd level? Lets say he does...he learns 2 more spells, and will now have access to 4 spells until he makes 6th level. What are the odds he'll live that long? +++ I know you're kidding, but I still disagree. I once based a PC on a character from the comic book [I]Archer & Armstrong[/I] (one was an Immortal, one was a monk). The comic-book monk had been kicked out of the monestary, ending his training. Ditto my PC. [/QUOTE]
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