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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Slaved" data-source="post: 3756852" data-attributes="member: 43358">I would really prefer the vow to work differently, such as with a list of options along with how many points you have to spend and the point values of each.Failing that, I think it could be exceptable for a character to get the class abilities of one of the incarnum classes with the drawback that the character cannot use most normal items. Keep a small list of allowables and describe a few examples of what such a character might do with their money.There might not even need to be any special rules what-so-ever other than simply not being able to use more items than a specific low gold piece worth of non-magical general equipment. That would get around the eating issue and for-the-good-of-the-realm sacrifices or their opposite.This would allow for most or all alignments and it has the potential to work out well. I think that being able to have and use a maximum amount of non-magical gear of masterwork quality and below equal to your normal maximum gear value divided by your level might work out. I have not gone through all of the numbers but this would allow 1st level characters to not feel a big hit and not get a really big bonus while 20th level characters would be limited to 38,000 gold pieces which could be something like a horse, a pile of utility equipment, and some powerful, but non-magical, interesting items for emergencies.I would probably also allow any feats gained through hit dice to be traded in for any feat with the incarnum tag plus any one other feat from the magic of incarnum book. But then I am a softie who knows that maximal use of incarnum is terribly feat intensive.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!    :o"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></blockquote>

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