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Message: <blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 3762907" data-attributes="member: 16285">Yup. Unlike the the other vows there is not exception, even for "magical compulsion".Now that doesn't exclude the DM "rewarding" the player for making such a sacrifice (giving up his vow and all of its benefits) to save the party via other 'Things", say suitabel magic items, etc. that can help "make up" for this.But this is not to say the vow's benefits itself should be given back.But in reality, the DM should find some way to save the party without costing the PC his vow if the player makes the decision to give up his vow to save the party, world, etc. So in effect the PC wouldn't actually be doing anything to forfeit his vow, only be willing to do it if necessary. This is one of those cases where perhaps the deity himself steps in via avatar to do the "goodness".</blockquote>