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<blockquote data-quote="BigFreekinGoblinoid" data-source="post: 1397171" data-attributes="member: 5988"><p>I thought I would just add a little bit here now that I have a little more time. </p><p></p><p>I am playing a monk in an FR campaign. ( We are currently going through the Banewarrens now ) I saw the VoP, and really liked the concept. I talked to the DM about it, and he agreed to allow it as long as I stuck to the true spirit behind the rules, and made sure I understood that if I screwed around in any grey areas, I would be in danger of losing benefits from both of these prerequisite feats ( remember, you need to take Sacred vow - which basically gives you nothing! - to qualify for VoP ). </p><p></p><p><strong>Spoiler alert for the Banewarrens ahead:</strong> We had three seperate incidents in the early part of the Banewarrens that almost killed us due to not using enough caution with magic items we located. The "bottle of storms" that we uncorked probably should have killed at least 2 of us, but I think the DM was being kind. </p><p></p><p>After that, it was a great opportunity to state my in game intentions to be self-reliant. It was hard parting with my +2 Ki Strike Nunchukkas, but hey - I had seen first hand the dangers of dealing with strange magic and putting faith in something other than my own innnate abilities. </p><p></p><p>My monk is hesitant to even accept healing spells from the party cleric. The only circumstances in which he does, is when he is truly in dire straits, and he feels like he will let the party down unless he is closer to full strength. And he only allows the cleric to use magic on him AT ALL because he trusts the divine source that is close to his own faith ( Ilmater ) in philiosophy.</p><p></p><p>Now, I go around occasionaly preaching caution to my fellow party members:</p><p></p><p>"Are you sure you wanna touch that?- You remember what happened with that huge gem you just had to have that ended up ceaselessly replicating undead" </p><p></p><p>"Does your greed know no bounds?"</p><p></p><p>"You know, Ilmater will provide for you all that you need!"</p><p></p><p>"The children of Ptolus need this money more than you do, Barbarian!"</p><p></p><p>I don't think I RP my vow to the point of excess, but enough to make the VoP a powerful force in my characters personna - not just a rule from a book. </p><p></p><p>Long term benefits from even temporary contact/remote source of magic items would definitely be a breach of intent with my PC's particular vow. Perhaps the answer to this question might be different on a case by case basis due to the specifics of the Vow ( which should be roleplayed IMO ), but I think these types of benefits really goes against the spirit of the rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BigFreekinGoblinoid, post: 1397171, member: 5988"] I thought I would just add a little bit here now that I have a little more time. I am playing a monk in an FR campaign. ( We are currently going through the Banewarrens now ) I saw the VoP, and really liked the concept. I talked to the DM about it, and he agreed to allow it as long as I stuck to the true spirit behind the rules, and made sure I understood that if I screwed around in any grey areas, I would be in danger of losing benefits from both of these prerequisite feats ( remember, you need to take Sacred vow - which basically gives you nothing! - to qualify for VoP ). [B]Spoiler alert for the Banewarrens ahead:[/B] We had three seperate incidents in the early part of the Banewarrens that almost killed us due to not using enough caution with magic items we located. The "bottle of storms" that we uncorked probably should have killed at least 2 of us, but I think the DM was being kind. After that, it was a great opportunity to state my in game intentions to be self-reliant. It was hard parting with my +2 Ki Strike Nunchukkas, but hey - I had seen first hand the dangers of dealing with strange magic and putting faith in something other than my own innnate abilities. My monk is hesitant to even accept healing spells from the party cleric. The only circumstances in which he does, is when he is truly in dire straits, and he feels like he will let the party down unless he is closer to full strength. And he only allows the cleric to use magic on him AT ALL because he trusts the divine source that is close to his own faith ( Ilmater ) in philiosophy. Now, I go around occasionaly preaching caution to my fellow party members: "Are you sure you wanna touch that?- You remember what happened with that huge gem you just had to have that ended up ceaselessly replicating undead" "Does your greed know no bounds?" "You know, Ilmater will provide for you all that you need!" "The children of Ptolus need this money more than you do, Barbarian!" I don't think I RP my vow to the point of excess, but enough to make the VoP a powerful force in my characters personna - not just a rule from a book. Long term benefits from even temporary contact/remote source of magic items would definitely be a breach of intent with my PC's particular vow. Perhaps the answer to this question might be different on a case by case basis due to the specifics of the Vow ( which should be roleplayed IMO ), but I think these types of benefits really goes against the spirit of the rules. [/QUOTE]
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