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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 1397357" data-attributes="member: 111"><p>That's getting ludicrous.</p><p></p><p>The problem with one-use items is exactly that cure potions are allowed. The real question is why?</p><p></p><p>Because they are cures - so only cures are valid as the exception? Could be, but that 's kind of weak. The Vow is only good until you need cures? Oh, please, give me a break.</p><p></p><p>Because they are low-value. I think not. That argument does not hold up at all - no exceptions to VoP based upon value</p><p></p><p>Because they are single use and are used up when given? At least that logically fits in with the VoP. Reading books for stat boosts may or may not be allowed under this ruling, as they are "used up" when you start reading them, but you need to use them for a while before the effect takes place. This, it seems to me, is the only way that makes sense. This way the Vow has no exceptions, which seems right for an Exalted vow.</p><p></p><p>The problem stems from the fact that you must use it for at least six days. I guess you could say that you "own" it during that time, especially since nothing in the description says that it is "used up" once the reading starts - only once the reading is complete. This implies you could start using it and change you mind and give it to someone else, which sounds like ownership.</p><p></p><p>I think a VoP character can use any gifted one-time use item, provided it is used immediately. It's a DM call as to whether one of these stat-improveing books fits into that category or not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 1397357, member: 111"] That's getting ludicrous. The problem with one-use items is exactly that cure potions are allowed. The real question is why? Because they are cures - so only cures are valid as the exception? Could be, but that 's kind of weak. The Vow is only good until you need cures? Oh, please, give me a break. Because they are low-value. I think not. That argument does not hold up at all - no exceptions to VoP based upon value Because they are single use and are used up when given? At least that logically fits in with the VoP. Reading books for stat boosts may or may not be allowed under this ruling, as they are "used up" when you start reading them, but you need to use them for a while before the effect takes place. This, it seems to me, is the only way that makes sense. This way the Vow has no exceptions, which seems right for an Exalted vow. The problem stems from the fact that you must use it for at least six days. I guess you could say that you "own" it during that time, especially since nothing in the description says that it is "used up" once the reading starts - only once the reading is complete. This implies you could start using it and change you mind and give it to someone else, which sounds like ownership. I think a VoP character can use any gifted one-time use item, provided it is used immediately. It's a DM call as to whether one of these stat-improveing books fits into that category or not. [/QUOTE]
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