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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 1400688" data-attributes="member: 111">That, however, is not what it says in the feat at all.&nbsp; Someone may give you one to take.&nbsp; That's what the Vow says.Now you certainly could think of that as using the potion on the VoP character.&nbsp; Not in the sense of &quot;forcing it down her throat, though, but in the sense of &quot;I'll use up my potion on the VoP character by letting her drink it.&quot;It's not much of a stretch from there to &quot;I'll use up my book of xxx by letting the VoP character read it.&quot;The question is, &quot;What is the key point here?&quot;1.&nbsp; The item is used up.2.&nbsp; The item is used up AND is a potion.3.&nbsp; The item is used up in one round and it NOT scroll/wand, etc.4.&nbsp; The item is used up AND is a healing type of item.5.&nbsp; The item is used up and is a healing type of potion.Or maybe some variation on these.Now let's think about the concept of the vow.&nbsp; You can't use any magic items, not even borrowed for one round.&nbsp; So how is it that you CAN use a potion of curing?&nbsp; What's the exception.It really cannot be just for curing - that simply makes no sense with the Vow - you'd keep the Vow it at all time unless it will help you - but not to help others, mind you, only you.&nbsp; I don't buy that at all.Number 3 above makes sense with the vow, as does number 1.&nbsp; Either one is accepting a gift but any ownership is fleeting as the item gifted is used up in as part of the gift.Number 5 is just pain silly - that's simply a rules mechanic that makes no sense at all with the Vow.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 1400688, member: 111"] That, however, is not what it says in the feat at all. Someone may give you one to take. That's what the Vow says. Now you certainly could think of that as using the potion on the VoP character. Not in the sense of "forcing it down her throat, though, but in the sense of "I'll use up my potion on the VoP character by letting her drink it." It's not much of a stretch from there to "I'll use up my book of xxx by letting the VoP character read it." The question is, "What is the key point here?" 1. The item is used up. 2. The item is used up AND is a potion. 3. The item is used up in one round and it NOT scroll/wand, etc. 4. The item is used up AND is a healing type of item. 5. The item is used up and is a healing type of potion. Or maybe some variation on these. Now let's think about the concept of the vow. You can't use any magic items, not even borrowed for one round. So how is it that you CAN use a potion of curing? What's the exception. It really cannot be just for curing - that simply makes no sense with the Vow - you'd keep the Vow it at all time unless it will help you - but not to help others, mind you, only you. I don't buy that at all. Number 3 above makes sense with the vow, as does number 1. Either one is accepting a gift but any ownership is fleeting as the item gifted is used up in as part of the gift. Number 5 is just pain silly - that's simply a rules mechanic that makes no sense at all with the Vow. [/QUOTE]

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