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<blockquote data-quote="reiella" data-source="post: 1400781" data-attributes="member: 160"><p>Hehe pretty much we'll have to agree on different assumptions on the implication of the text (And the usage of the word 'drink') <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />, but I'll try another approach anyway because I just realized upon something funny.</p><p></p><p>If you assume it's ok to borrow a potion and use it yourself, then the rules begin to contradict themselves, unless you presume that you are allowed to borrow a magic item for a time period of Less than a Round, and it becomes non-sensical.</p><p></p><p>In order for someone to "borrow" a potion with Itemized System.</p><p></p><p>1) Non-VoP uses a move equivilant action on their turn to retrieve a potion.</p><p>2) Non-VoP uses a standard action to hand off (or throw) potion to VoP.</p><p>2) VoPer must immediately use a standard action on their turn to quaff the potion (or else they breach the 1 round limitation). They would also potentially breach the letter of their vow (irrevocably) if between obtaining the potion they got Held successfully for more than a round.</p><p></p><p>Ironically, instead, someone can apply the potion to someone else a full-round action, and not risk any such violation <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.</p><p></p><p>Quick Summary</p><p>I think that "Drink a potion given to you" ~= "Potion Applied to you", since it doesn't create an unexplained exception open to extrapolation.</p><p>I also feel that the letter of a Vow is significant <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reiella, post: 1400781, member: 160"] Hehe pretty much we'll have to agree on different assumptions on the implication of the text (And the usage of the word 'drink') :), but I'll try another approach anyway because I just realized upon something funny. If you assume it's ok to borrow a potion and use it yourself, then the rules begin to contradict themselves, unless you presume that you are allowed to borrow a magic item for a time period of Less than a Round, and it becomes non-sensical. In order for someone to "borrow" a potion with Itemized System. 1) Non-VoP uses a move equivilant action on their turn to retrieve a potion. 2) Non-VoP uses a standard action to hand off (or throw) potion to VoP. 2) VoPer must immediately use a standard action on their turn to quaff the potion (or else they breach the 1 round limitation). They would also potentially breach the letter of their vow (irrevocably) if between obtaining the potion they got Held successfully for more than a round. Ironically, instead, someone can apply the potion to someone else a full-round action, and not risk any such violation :). Quick Summary I think that "Drink a potion given to you" ~= "Potion Applied to you", since it doesn't create an unexplained exception open to extrapolation. I also feel that the letter of a Vow is significant :). [/QUOTE]
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