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<blockquote data-quote="HeapThaumaturgist" data-source="post: 2657829" data-attributes="member: 12332"><p>+4 LA, you're getting hosed.</p><p></p><p>At a fundamental level, if he's saying that HE THINKS you have abilities equal to the gold-piece-equivalent of a character 4 levels higher, then the actual adjustment is only about +1 LA at those levels.</p><p></p><p>And that's the thing, LA sucks because things that are really worth a level or two at lower levels are speed bumps at higher levels.</p><p></p><p>As a GM I'd have alot more in the way of issues with your racial choice than with VoP. Granted, I don't allow VoP in my games, but I'm a weird draconian monster when it comes to keeping things core ... just for this reason. I hate feeling like I need to go to a message board or hose a PC because I let Jack Minmaxer take VoP and now his monk overshadows the rest of the party on a daily basis.</p><p></p><p>If you're outperforming the party, then there's a problem. You should be good, and have a purpose, but be honest with yourself and look at what's going on with the party dynamic. If everything is coming down to the rest of the party backing up Das Ubermonk as he ninja-kicks everybody to death ... then something about how the rest of the game is being run is causing problems. But I don't think it's a great idea to give you +4 LA. He could give you a negative level, perhaps ... "negative level", not a real one. Perhaps he could tie it into the campaign as a curse layered by the Big Bad Evil Guy that can only be raised by defeating him and destroying his Crystal Dodad of Doom ... of course, when that happens the campaign is over, but it gives you a goal and reduces your overall power level.</p><p></p><p>If you're NOT totally overshadowing the rest of the party but the GM is just annoyed that you've got abilities that he's not sure how to deal with ... then he needs to limit source material BEFORE the game begins. For my part, I knew I didn't like VoP before I ever let it into a game. I'd say the rest of the gaming group should get some input. If everybody else is tired of your character ... then either they've got issues with him or with you.</p><p></p><p>--fje</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HeapThaumaturgist, post: 2657829, member: 12332"] +4 LA, you're getting hosed. At a fundamental level, if he's saying that HE THINKS you have abilities equal to the gold-piece-equivalent of a character 4 levels higher, then the actual adjustment is only about +1 LA at those levels. And that's the thing, LA sucks because things that are really worth a level or two at lower levels are speed bumps at higher levels. As a GM I'd have alot more in the way of issues with your racial choice than with VoP. Granted, I don't allow VoP in my games, but I'm a weird draconian monster when it comes to keeping things core ... just for this reason. I hate feeling like I need to go to a message board or hose a PC because I let Jack Minmaxer take VoP and now his monk overshadows the rest of the party on a daily basis. If you're outperforming the party, then there's a problem. You should be good, and have a purpose, but be honest with yourself and look at what's going on with the party dynamic. If everything is coming down to the rest of the party backing up Das Ubermonk as he ninja-kicks everybody to death ... then something about how the rest of the game is being run is causing problems. But I don't think it's a great idea to give you +4 LA. He could give you a negative level, perhaps ... "negative level", not a real one. Perhaps he could tie it into the campaign as a curse layered by the Big Bad Evil Guy that can only be raised by defeating him and destroying his Crystal Dodad of Doom ... of course, when that happens the campaign is over, but it gives you a goal and reduces your overall power level. If you're NOT totally overshadowing the rest of the party but the GM is just annoyed that you've got abilities that he's not sure how to deal with ... then he needs to limit source material BEFORE the game begins. For my part, I knew I didn't like VoP before I ever let it into a game. I'd say the rest of the gaming group should get some input. If everybody else is tired of your character ... then either they've got issues with him or with you. --fje [/QUOTE]
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