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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ledded" data-source="post: 1232715" data-attributes="member: 12744">There are a few variations, and there are a few not based on SW that arent specifically termed Vitality/Wound points.Here is what we use in our game:Wound Points (WP) is the amount of actual physical damage you can take.  Vitality Points (VP) is your ability to avoid damage through experience, luck, or being quick enough to not get hit badly;  it is the bruises, scrapes, pulled muscles, and exhaustion that comes from being in an intense situation.You get as many WP as your con score.  Con 12 = 12 WP.   You get VP just like regular hit points, constitution modifier applies.  A first level strong hero with a con of 14 is going to start with 14 WP, and 10 VP.'Ordinaries' either dont get VP or get a very limited amount if they have no heroic classes.Damage goes to VP first, then goes to WP.  A critical hit goes directly to WP, bypassing VP altogether, but does not multiply.If you take any amount of WP damage, you must make a save DC of 5 (or 10, for grittier option) + <total amount of WP damage taken in that round>.  Failure means unconsciousness for 1d4 rounds.  Having taken any WP damage, you are fatigued (you cannot run or charge, and take a -2 penalty to str and dex).'Non-lethal' damage goes to VP first, but never actually causes WP damage.  You are still fatigued, and do have to make the saves as if you took WP damage to avoid being knocked out. You can take the toughness feat to gain an additional +3 WP.  Tough hero talents applying to hit points apply to WP.  Treat injury can allow you to regain WP faster for continuous care (up to 3 per day, I think).You gain your level in VP every hour of rest/light activity.  You gain 1 WP of healing back every day you receive 8 hours of rest.  Damage reduction applies only to WP, because when you take VP in effect you didnt really get 'hit'.  We allow armors to give damage reduction based on material (the basic system is that light armor gives DR1, medium DR2, heavy DR3).Add one die of damage to all ballistic weapons/firearms (a 9mm does 3d6 instead of 2d6) which is how SW is modelled, and is the advice given in Ultra Modern Firearms.  Some argue that you should apply this to melee or non-firearm weapons also, feel free to do so if it floats your boat... to us it works great like it is.It's not quite as gritty as the Massive Damage rules, but we like it because it is a bit more easier to determine if someone is really hurt or just merely winded (more cinematic) while still being fairly gritty (a crit from a 10ga shotgun -3d10- or assault rifle has a good chance of killing anyone outright).  Because damage for firearms is increased, people still dont try to go toe-to-toe but it's not quite as unforgiving as the massive damage system.  Double-taps and Bursts from larger caliber weapons are very scary indeed (burst from a .50 cal = 5d12 damage).We also use several feats from the UMF and other sources that allow increase in save DC for autofire so that it is a bit more scary at higher level encounters.  Our low-magic spell system is a custom job by our GM, with lower spells costing you VP, higher ones costing WP, and the highest costing ability point damage, or a combination of the former.</blockquote>

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