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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5086161" data-attributes="member: 35909">I don't think they're meant to dominate the skies, I've mostly used them on the ground, with the flight helpul to reach a target but not used too much.&nbsp; It's strange you bombed with them.&nbsp; I've often found WotC had wet beds for the demonkin and gave them grossly overpowered stat blocks for their CR.&nbsp; Vrocks in particular I recall being a tough fight for my group multiple times, and my group is pretty good at optimizing.&nbsp; I mean cripes, Vrocks even get the literally impossible to resist Spores attack!(Side note, my group gave Spores a fort save DC of 10 + 1/2 HD + Con mod and treated it as a poison for racial save bonuses, immunities, etc...&nbsp; I recommend adopting such a rule)Pertaining to your encounter, two notes:1. Did you try stunning screech?&nbsp; Depending on how the party was getting its flight, a failed save might cause them to plummet themselves.2. <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsterFeats.htm#flybyAttack" target="_blank">A monster's feats can be changed if you as the DM want to.</a>&nbsp; <a href="http://realmshelps.dandello.net/cgi-bin/feats.pl?Improved_Flight" target="_blank">Really, it's not that hard.</a>&nbsp; You can even give the monster class levels for abilities you can't buy with feats (this sentence would be linking to the Lion Totem Barbarian variant from C.Champion that grants pounce with only 1 level in Barb, if I knew somewhere on the web that had it)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5086161, member: 35909"] I don't think they're meant to dominate the skies, I've mostly used them on the ground, with the flight helpul to reach a target but not used too much. It's strange you bombed with them. I've often found WotC had wet beds for the demonkin and gave them grossly overpowered stat blocks for their CR. Vrocks in particular I recall being a tough fight for my group multiple times, and my group is pretty good at optimizing. I mean cripes, Vrocks even get the literally impossible to resist Spores attack! (Side note, my group gave Spores a fort save DC of 10 + 1/2 HD + Con mod and treated it as a poison for racial save bonuses, immunities, etc... I recommend adopting such a rule) Pertaining to your encounter, two notes: 1. Did you try stunning screech? Depending on how the party was getting its flight, a failed save might cause them to plummet themselves. 2. [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsterFeats.htm#flybyAttack]A monster's feats can be changed if you as the DM want to.[/url] [url=http://realmshelps.dandello.net/cgi-bin/feats.pl?Improved_Flight]Really, it's not that hard.[/url] You can even give the monster class levels for abilities you can't buy with feats (this sentence would be linking to the Lion Totem Barbarian variant from C.Champion that grants pounce with only 1 level in Barb, if I knew somewhere on the web that had it) [/QUOTE]

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