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Message: <blockquote data-quote="negZero" data-source="post: 5935435" data-attributes="member: 6695029">I've posted this OP on couple other forums and this has come up before. Also this isn't knocking your idea I like, I've done it dozen times, heck one guy has called me in just roleplay a big bad thats tough as nails and can talk the party into doing anything, so am good at doing this stuff. So I like your idea and know how to pull it off. Not trying to brag but when I was DMing the group that is now playing VtM I actually got them to like madman who I spent 3 sessions describing how insane he was in under 2 mins.Now hes the catch ever character that I talk to when am with group tells me to STFU. No really I got recordings of this, the Prince (Ventrue) told me shut up and let the player Ventrue speak. When I went to see my Primogen I got stake, and told to shut up listen. When me and the Ventrue player decide to get a little criminal empire going I was ignored by the storyteller and actually had to stop the game just to tell him am there and then he went back to having one on one conversation with the player Ventrue. Am now at the point of going point blank to NPCs and telling them "Am bored do you have something for me to do?" I have recordings on this yet, these words were said to a Keeper and my underworld contacts. Also am updating the post with some new information.</blockquote>