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<blockquote data-quote="fenriswolf456" data-source="post: 5935937" data-attributes="member: 6687664"><p>Well, going by the information so far, the ST doesn't sound very good. I assumed 'being told to STFU' was being in character. Maybe you should see about creating your own character, rather than this one the ST made. It seems clear that the GM doesn't like this character or anything you try doing with him. Though really, it's sounding like the ST doesn't want you playing. Everything so far seems to have exluded you, and anything you try is met with the ST just saying no.</p><p> </p><p>If it's a sand-box world where you're not following any sort of plot point, then the ST has to be prepared to let characters do things. Or is there an actual back-ground plot going on?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I'm not saying he owes you. But he should be on friendly terms with you, well, as far as friendly goes amongst Kindred. Fighting off the Sabbat and associated monsters is right up his alley. If the ST continues to play him as antagonistic, well, the ST is again being poor. Do you know the clan of the Sheriff?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>The Brujah Primogen is angry you got into a fight? </p><p> </p><p>I could see being disappointed you got torped, but he should at least be pleased you dusted a few Sabbat (assuming that's the fight in question). I certainly don't see how this leads to him wanting to have you dead.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Again, poor storytelling seems to be the problem, and there's little we can suggest for your character to do if the ST isn't invested in reciprocating.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>What's money to a vampire? Mug your biting victims for the cash if you need to. Still, not really contacts in my books if you have to pay for them. Paying money should be for gaining the contacts trust, for better and sweeter information.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Remember the three methods of advancement ... pitting you against the threat scored points for the Ventrue. But if this was a problem for the Sheriff, you should be in his good books for helping out with the situation (i.e. proving you're useful and at least dedicated enough to assist). Use that.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>That's a pretty major houserule. That's Sabbat ritual, not something that just happens. And it's 2 steps? The Tremere would love to know about this.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Certainly agree.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Still very confusing. The Prince calls you in, and you're giving backstory while breaking someone/everyone out? Presumably the Prince is holding these people, and if so, why is he letting you break them out?</p><p> </p><p>In any case, sounds like either you were about to reveal information the ST didn't want revealed, or the ST is just bad.</p><p> </p><p>So lets have another look at the ST suggestions:</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Not sure where it could go either, but go for it. Especially get your 'buddies' set up with security systems. Then take advantage of it to get dirt on them. Is the mechanic shop legit? If not, get some damning evidence. Get copies of damning information about the criminal organization. Maybe something 'innocent' like shipping schedules, and let some rival 'discover' them. Maybe some security and hired muscle will be a good thing after all.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>What kind of criminal organization doesn't want some good muscle? I can't imagine them not treading on someone's toes.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Again, sounds like a guy to have on your side. Seems like major cred when you can sit down and have a talk with the badass Sheriff while everyone else runs off quaking in their boots.</p><p> </p><p>You're a Brujah, you're bad-ass yourself. Make it known to him that you're up for whatever it takes, to kick some ass on something he hasn't had time to deal with, and this time there won't be any back-stabbing Ventrue to mess things up. Make yourself useful to him. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>So what was the point of giving you a boon? A boon is given so that you owe them. I'm presuming your Sire wasn't supposed to Embrace you, but the Primogen took you in anyway.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>So do some. Start getting a crew together, use the contacts/background you have to find some good people. Look into bonding them, maybe even quietly make some ghouls. Make some money back, get a drink in or two. Oh, was that guy we robbed part of someone's criminal organization. Maybe they should have let you in on things. Is the mechanic a chop-shop? Bring in some cars and ask for a modest cut. Is there a rival shop? Guess who's good at breaking in and getting evidence of criminal mis-doings and somehow such evidence winds up in the hands of the cops? And all for a not-so-modest cut.</p><p> </p><p>Rather than just saying 'hey guys, I'm bored, got anything for me to do?", change tact and say "hey guys, seems to me like X is going to be a problem, how about I go handle that for you?"</p><p> </p><p>If these were plots suggested by the ST, then the ST should be intested when you pursue them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fenriswolf456, post: 5935937, member: 6687664"] Well, going by the information so far, the ST doesn't sound very good. I assumed 'being told to STFU' was being in character. Maybe you should see about creating your own character, rather than this one the ST made. It seems clear that the GM doesn't like this character or anything you try doing with him. Though really, it's sounding like the ST doesn't want you playing. Everything so far seems to have exluded you, and anything you try is met with the ST just saying no. If it's a sand-box world where you're not following any sort of plot point, then the ST has to be prepared to let characters do things. Or is there an actual back-ground plot going on? I'm not saying he owes you. But he should be on friendly terms with you, well, as far as friendly goes amongst Kindred. Fighting off the Sabbat and associated monsters is right up his alley. If the ST continues to play him as antagonistic, well, the ST is again being poor. Do you know the clan of the Sheriff? The Brujah Primogen is angry you got into a fight? I could see being disappointed you got torped, but he should at least be pleased you dusted a few Sabbat (assuming that's the fight in question). I certainly don't see how this leads to him wanting to have you dead. Again, poor storytelling seems to be the problem, and there's little we can suggest for your character to do if the ST isn't invested in reciprocating. What's money to a vampire? Mug your biting victims for the cash if you need to. Still, not really contacts in my books if you have to pay for them. Paying money should be for gaining the contacts trust, for better and sweeter information. Remember the three methods of advancement ... pitting you against the threat scored points for the Ventrue. But if this was a problem for the Sheriff, you should be in his good books for helping out with the situation (i.e. proving you're useful and at least dedicated enough to assist). Use that. That's a pretty major houserule. That's Sabbat ritual, not something that just happens. And it's 2 steps? The Tremere would love to know about this. Certainly agree. Still very confusing. The Prince calls you in, and you're giving backstory while breaking someone/everyone out? Presumably the Prince is holding these people, and if so, why is he letting you break them out? In any case, sounds like either you were about to reveal information the ST didn't want revealed, or the ST is just bad. So lets have another look at the ST suggestions: Not sure where it could go either, but go for it. Especially get your 'buddies' set up with security systems. Then take advantage of it to get dirt on them. Is the mechanic shop legit? If not, get some damning evidence. Get copies of damning information about the criminal organization. Maybe something 'innocent' like shipping schedules, and let some rival 'discover' them. Maybe some security and hired muscle will be a good thing after all. What kind of criminal organization doesn't want some good muscle? I can't imagine them not treading on someone's toes. Again, sounds like a guy to have on your side. Seems like major cred when you can sit down and have a talk with the badass Sheriff while everyone else runs off quaking in their boots. You're a Brujah, you're bad-ass yourself. Make it known to him that you're up for whatever it takes, to kick some ass on something he hasn't had time to deal with, and this time there won't be any back-stabbing Ventrue to mess things up. Make yourself useful to him. So what was the point of giving you a boon? A boon is given so that you owe them. I'm presuming your Sire wasn't supposed to Embrace you, but the Primogen took you in anyway. So do some. Start getting a crew together, use the contacts/background you have to find some good people. Look into bonding them, maybe even quietly make some ghouls. Make some money back, get a drink in or two. Oh, was that guy we robbed part of someone's criminal organization. Maybe they should have let you in on things. Is the mechanic a chop-shop? Bring in some cars and ask for a modest cut. Is there a rival shop? Guess who's good at breaking in and getting evidence of criminal mis-doings and somehow such evidence winds up in the hands of the cops? And all for a not-so-modest cut. Rather than just saying 'hey guys, I'm bored, got anything for me to do?", change tact and say "hey guys, seems to me like X is going to be a problem, how about I go handle that for you?" If these were plots suggested by the ST, then the ST should be intested when you pursue them. [/QUOTE]
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