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<blockquote data-quote="kronovan" data-source="post: 9805083" data-attributes="member: 6775134"><p>I own Foundry and Fantasy Grounds, was a previous subscriber to roll20 and have used 3 other VTTs. I personally don't care for the mapping tools in any of the VTT's I've used. I find all of them lacking - missing features or being too difficult to use for the results they give. I'm a long term user of Campaign Cartographer 3, which can create virtually any kind of map you want, so a VTT would have to have some stellar tools to make me use it instead. That said, CC3 has a steep learning curve and takes a lot of practice to get to the point where you can bang out a map during a player break.</p><p></p><p>The big decision IMO is for those times you do use maps, whether you want Line Of Sight on them. If mapping is left up to a player, that's not an issue as they can't map what there PC hasn't seen. If on the other hand, you want to load up some premade maps as GM and want LOS on them, that narrows the choices down. IME using a VTT's own LOS tools are, if not awkward, too time consuming. A number of mapping apps allow you to auto-gen LOS in exported files. Sadly CC3 doesn't support it, but I also own Dungeondraft which does - Dungeon Alchemist and MapForge do too. If I want to knock out a quick map with LOS, I'll use dungeondraft instead of CC3.</p><p></p><p>Out of all the VTTs I've used, Arkenforge has had the best mapping tools, but Foundry sewed up second place. So I'm not suprised a player useable tool like Dungeon Draw has been created for Foundry. While I haven't used it, it does look promising and IMO very cool that it provides an old school Moldvay style. There's also the <a href="https://virtual-graph-paper.com/" target="_blank">Virtual Graph Paper</a> online mapping tool, which can be shared realtime with other players. I've no doubt that other, web-based mapping apps like it also exist. As well, a mapping player can always stream a map they're building in a chat client that supports it - i.e. Discord.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kronovan, post: 9805083, member: 6775134"] I own Foundry and Fantasy Grounds, was a previous subscriber to roll20 and have used 3 other VTTs. I personally don't care for the mapping tools in any of the VTT's I've used. I find all of them lacking - missing features or being too difficult to use for the results they give. I'm a long term user of Campaign Cartographer 3, which can create virtually any kind of map you want, so a VTT would have to have some stellar tools to make me use it instead. That said, CC3 has a steep learning curve and takes a lot of practice to get to the point where you can bang out a map during a player break. The big decision IMO is for those times you do use maps, whether you want Line Of Sight on them. If mapping is left up to a player, that's not an issue as they can't map what there PC hasn't seen. If on the other hand, you want to load up some premade maps as GM and want LOS on them, that narrows the choices down. IME using a VTT's own LOS tools are, if not awkward, too time consuming. A number of mapping apps allow you to auto-gen LOS in exported files. Sadly CC3 doesn't support it, but I also own Dungeondraft which does - Dungeon Alchemist and MapForge do too. If I want to knock out a quick map with LOS, I'll use dungeondraft instead of CC3. Out of all the VTTs I've used, Arkenforge has had the best mapping tools, but Foundry sewed up second place. So I'm not suprised a player useable tool like Dungeon Draw has been created for Foundry. While I haven't used it, it does look promising and IMO very cool that it provides an old school Moldvay style. There's also the [URL='https://virtual-graph-paper.com/']Virtual Graph Paper[/URL] online mapping tool, which can be shared realtime with other players. I've no doubt that other, web-based mapping apps like it also exist. As well, a mapping player can always stream a map they're building in a chat client that supports it - i.e. Discord. [/QUOTE]
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