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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2917870" data-attributes="member: 1656">For what it's worth, the 3.5 Main FAQ takes the opposite approach - resistance followed by vulnerability.If a monster has resistance and vulnerability to thesame kind of damage (such as fire), which effect is appliedfirst? And when does the saving throw come in?Always roll a saving throw before applying any effects thatwould increase or reduce the damage dealt. For example, if afrost giant is struck by a fireball that would deal 35 points ofdamage, it would roll its Reflex save, then apply itsvulnerability to fire after determining how much damage thefireball would normally deal. If the save failed, the frost giantwould take 52 points of damage: 35 + one-half of 35 (17.5,rounded down to 17). A successful save would mean the frostgiant suffered only 25 points of damage: one-half of 35rounded down (17), plus one-half of 17 rounded down (8).If the creature has both resistance and vulnerability to thesame kind of damage, apply the resistance (which reduces thedamage dealt by the effect) before applying the vulnerability(which increases the damage taken by the creature). Forexample, imagine our frost giant from the previous paragraphwore a ring of minor fire resistance (granting resistance to fire10). If the save failed, the frost giant would take 37 points offire damage: 35 (fireball) – 10 (resistance to fire 10) = 25, plusone-half of 25 (12.5, rounded down to 12). If the savesucceeded, the frost giant would take only 10 points of damage:17 (half damage from the fireball, rounded down) – 10(resistance to fire 10) = 7, plus one-half of 7 (3.5, roundeddown to 3).As a general guideline, whenever the rules don’t stipulatean order of operations for special effects (such as spells orspecial abilities), you should apply them in the order that’smost beneficial to the creature. In the case of damage, thistypically means applying any damage-reducing effects first,before applying any effects that would increase damage.-Hyp.</blockquote>

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