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<blockquote data-quote="Clavis" data-source="post: 4814399" data-attributes="member: 31898"><p>My personal conception of Traditional Fantasy was formed by mythology, folktales, legends, and history. That's what I read as a child, but almost no mainstream Fantasy fiction. I tried to get through Tolkien a few times, and found him very boring. A could sit and read a treatise on the development of armor in the West, but somehow Tolkien made my eyes glaze over. I didn't start reading fantastic literature until my teens, and then it was authors like Lovecraft that caught my attention. Now I'm influenced by HPL, Clark Ashton Smith, Howard, Tanith Lee, Vance, and the movies of Terry Gillliam. One of my favorite books is Jan Potocki's "Manuscript Found in Saragossa". When I want handle the truly Weird in my campaigns, I'm influenced by William S. Burroughs, Robert Anton Wilson, and the films of David Lynch and David Cronenberg. </p><p></p><p>The only real influence of Tolkien on my campaigns is through the conventions of D&D itself. My Elves, however, are not the neutered proper Victorian gentlemen of Tolkien, but the actual fierce, lustful, amoral race of medieval legend. My Dwarves are unlikable greedy bigots, based on Alberich from Wagner's Ring cycle.</p><p></p><p>My problem with Tolkien is perhaps exemplified his the anti-Celtic quote posted above. Tolkien took medieval legends, filled with strange, savage and morally questionable incidents, and tamed them. He made fairy folk, who in medieval stories are interested in humans as illicit lovers (not for lawful matrimony), and as a source of babies to steal, and made them boring and safe.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Clavis, post: 4814399, member: 31898"] My personal conception of Traditional Fantasy was formed by mythology, folktales, legends, and history. That's what I read as a child, but almost no mainstream Fantasy fiction. I tried to get through Tolkien a few times, and found him very boring. A could sit and read a treatise on the development of armor in the West, but somehow Tolkien made my eyes glaze over. I didn't start reading fantastic literature until my teens, and then it was authors like Lovecraft that caught my attention. Now I'm influenced by HPL, Clark Ashton Smith, Howard, Tanith Lee, Vance, and the movies of Terry Gillliam. One of my favorite books is Jan Potocki's "Manuscript Found in Saragossa". When I want handle the truly Weird in my campaigns, I'm influenced by William S. Burroughs, Robert Anton Wilson, and the films of David Lynch and David Cronenberg. The only real influence of Tolkien on my campaigns is through the conventions of D&D itself. My Elves, however, are not the neutered proper Victorian gentlemen of Tolkien, but the actual fierce, lustful, amoral race of medieval legend. My Dwarves are unlikable greedy bigots, based on Alberich from Wagner's Ring cycle. My problem with Tolkien is perhaps exemplified his the anti-Celtic quote posted above. Tolkien took medieval legends, filled with strange, savage and morally questionable incidents, and tamed them. He made fairy folk, who in medieval stories are interested in humans as illicit lovers (not for lawful matrimony), and as a source of babies to steal, and made them boring and safe. [/QUOTE]
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