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<blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 4817541" data-attributes="member: 32536">You threw Celtic, Indian, and Chinese mythology in there... In fact, even Norse and Greek...Real world mythology is so far on the &quot;wahoo&quot; side of the scale it is ridiculous. You only get the common idea of &quot;traditional&quot; fantasy from mythology if you tone it down and ignore half of it. I mean, among many other things Indian mythology involves characters like heroic monkey-men demigods who can carry a Himalayan mountain down to Sri Lanka in one leap. The Celtic hero Cu Chulainn's threw his spear, Gae Bulg, using his toes, and the spear is said to split into countless barbs upon contact, piercing every joint in its target's body. Norse mythology involves an evil ship of the dead made entirely out of human fingernails and toenails. Various kinds of mythology have stories of creation that would get me in trouble with the moderators if I related them here.Mythology is weird. If you accept it as the basis for &quot;traditional&quot;, then pretty much anything but the most outlandish stuff deliberately meant for ridiculousness and parody will qualify. Certainly the Dragonborn and various other controversial 4E elements would not be considered &quot;wahoo&quot; under such a definition.This, of course, is a major reason why I dislike the &quot;traditional vs. wahoo&quot; distinction.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwinBahamut, post: 4817541, member: 32536"] You threw Celtic, Indian, and Chinese mythology in there... In fact, even Norse and Greek... Real world mythology is so far on the "wahoo" side of the scale it is ridiculous. You only get the common idea of "traditional" fantasy from mythology if you tone it down and ignore half of it. I mean, among many other things Indian mythology involves characters like heroic monkey-men demigods who can carry a Himalayan mountain down to Sri Lanka in one leap. The Celtic hero Cu Chulainn's threw his spear, Gae Bulg, using his toes, and the spear is said to split into countless barbs upon contact, piercing every joint in its target's body. Norse mythology involves an evil ship of the dead made entirely out of human fingernails and toenails. Various kinds of mythology have stories of creation that would get me in trouble with the moderators if I related them here. Mythology is [i]weird[/i]. If you accept it as the basis for "traditional", then pretty much anything but the most outlandish stuff deliberately meant for ridiculousness and parody will qualify. Certainly the Dragonborn and various other controversial 4E elements would not be considered "wahoo" under such a definition. This, of course, is a major reason why I dislike the "traditional vs. wahoo" distinction. [/QUOTE]

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