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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7656205" data-attributes="member: 15700">Sales figures and popularity of 4e (first time a previous edition outsold a current one in the same window of time, which is essentially what PF is--a version of 3x)Survey feedback with an overwhelming response supporting rulings over rules (as told by the DEV team)Implementation of this style into 5e, followed by the reception and popularity since it's release, with overwhelming responses of people who have said they came back to D&amp;D with this editionCome to whatever conclusion you want, but it seems clear to me that your style is the minority, and can't support the D&amp;D model for what they want it to be (the leading RPG).This right here is you making an absolute statement.&nbsp; That's what he is disagreeing with you about.&nbsp; This statement you made is not universally true.&nbsp; If I haven't run into your issues in over 30 years, I don't see it happening any time in the future.And honestly, if you're running into these issues as often as you are, I'd re-evaluate the people you're gaming with.&nbsp; Because it's just a game for people to have fun.&nbsp; If a player is going to disrupt that because they're butthurt or whatever and won't let it go? they can go play somewhere else.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7656205, member: 15700"] Sales figures and popularity of 4e (first time a previous edition outsold a current one in the same window of time, which is essentially what PF is--a version of 3x) Survey feedback with an overwhelming response supporting rulings over rules (as told by the DEV team) Implementation of this style into 5e, followed by the reception and popularity since it's release, with overwhelming responses of people who have said they came back to D&D with this edition Come to whatever conclusion you want, but it seems clear to me that your style is the minority, and can't support the D&D model for what they want it to be (the leading RPG). This right here is you making an absolute statement. That's what he is disagreeing with you about. This statement you made is not universally true. If I haven't run into your issues in over 30 years, I don't see it happening any time in the future. And honestly, if you're running into these issues as often as you are, I'd re-evaluate the people you're gaming with. Because it's just a game for people to have fun. If a player is going to disrupt that because they're butthurt or whatever and won't let it go? they can go play somewhere else. [/QUOTE]

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