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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7656499" data-attributes="member: 2525">My point in mentioning how you guys are sometimes in the minority is that you should appreciate better than most that there is no universal view of D&amp;D.&nbsp; You took it as a pejorative, but it wasn't meant that way if you look at the context where I said that.&nbsp; NONE of what you just said is a reply to my point, and it's a total strawman.&nbsp; I was not justifying the joke flow chart in any way, and even a casual reading of what I wrote would tell you that.&nbsp; A different comment, from a different poster, was made saying that they knew of a universal view of how to play D&amp;D - that some DM decision-making MUST ALWAYS drive away players no matter what.&nbsp; I responded it was not true for my game, and explained why, and that it was not true for some others in this thread who had said so.&nbsp; IN response to that, your buddy ManBearCat started with the snark (uncalled for - no snark had been directed at him) and then said then my view was the extreme outlier which justified his total dismissal of my experiences and views - with zero evidence to support that claim.And then you jumped to his defense, also with no evidence, misunderstanding why I had mentioned my surprise at that reaction given you and he had experience knowing how there are no universal ways to play D&amp;D as you had both been on the minority end of discussions before and that didn't make your views actual extreme outliers.SO I am asking you a second time - do you actually agree that any dissent from that view I was responding to makes me an extreme outlier, despite zero evidence of such? Because if your threshold for being extreme outlier and dismissed as such is now that low, that's cool.&nbsp; Just understand it's a tactic that will be turned on you countless times hereafter.&nbsp; Ball is in your court, just don't pretend you have no idea what game we're playing right now and try and change the subject to something else.&nbsp; I've got my teeth on this topic pretty strongly at this point.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7656499, member: 2525"] My point in mentioning how you guys are sometimes in the minority is that you should appreciate better than most that there is no universal view of D&D. You took it as a pejorative, but it wasn't meant that way if you look at the context where I said that. NONE of what you just said is a reply to my point, and it's a total strawman. I was not justifying the joke flow chart in any way, and even a casual reading of what I wrote would tell you that. A different comment, from a different poster, was made saying that they knew of a universal view of how to play D&D - that some DM decision-making MUST ALWAYS drive away players no matter what. I responded it was not true for my game, and explained why, and that it was not true for some others in this thread who had said so. IN response to that, your buddy ManBearCat started with the snark (uncalled for - no snark had been directed at him) and then said then my view was the extreme outlier which justified his total dismissal of my experiences and views - with zero evidence to support that claim. And then you jumped to his defense, also with no evidence, misunderstanding why I had mentioned my surprise at that reaction given you and he had experience knowing how there are no universal ways to play D&D as you had both been on the minority end of discussions before and that didn't make your views actual extreme outliers. SO I am asking you a second time - do you actually agree that any dissent from that view I was responding to makes me an extreme outlier, despite zero evidence of such? Because if your threshold for being extreme outlier and dismissed as such is now that low, that's cool. Just understand it's a tactic that will be turned on you countless times hereafter. Ball is in your court, just don't pretend you have no idea what game we're playing right now and try and change the subject to something else. I've got my teeth on this topic pretty strongly at this point. [/QUOTE]

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