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<blockquote data-quote="Mephistopheles" data-source="post: 4796857" data-attributes="member: 4460"><p>Just because you are unconscious when sleeping it does not follow that you are sleeping when unconscious. The quoted rule does not apply. (On a tangent, the Sleep power does not put targets to sleep, it renders them unconscious.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I cannot find a general rule for it; looking at a few powers that render targets unconscious may help.</p><p></p><p>Knockout (Rogue Attack 9) says "If the unconscious target takes any damage, it is no longer unconscious.", which reads as though it is applied specifically for targets made unconscious by this power.</p><p></p><p>Garrote Grip (Rogue Attack 15) says "If an unconscious target takes takes any damage, it is no longer unconscious.", which could be read as though it is applied specifically for targets made unconscious by this power or to the unconscious condition in general. I'd go with the former considering the source.</p><p></p><p>Without further clarification I'd argue that unconscious targets are roused by damage only if the attack that applied the effect says so - arguing otherwise makes the clauses from the two powers listed above redundant, particularly when considering the exception based design of 4E.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mephistopheles, post: 4796857, member: 4460"] Just because you are unconscious when sleeping it does not follow that you are sleeping when unconscious. The quoted rule does not apply. (On a tangent, the Sleep power does not put targets to sleep, it renders them unconscious.) I cannot find a general rule for it; looking at a few powers that render targets unconscious may help. Knockout (Rogue Attack 9) says "If the unconscious target takes any damage, it is no longer unconscious.", which reads as though it is applied specifically for targets made unconscious by this power. Garrote Grip (Rogue Attack 15) says "If an unconscious target takes takes any damage, it is no longer unconscious.", which could be read as though it is applied specifically for targets made unconscious by this power or to the unconscious condition in general. I'd go with the former considering the source. Without further clarification I'd argue that unconscious targets are roused by damage only if the attack that applied the effect says so - arguing otherwise makes the clauses from the two powers listed above redundant, particularly when considering the exception based design of 4E. [/QUOTE]
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