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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 9036083" data-attributes="member: 5889">Lets take a look.Hypnotic Pattern is a 30 foot cube. The creatures must be "within the area" to be affected. So seeing the pattern isn't enough, you must actually be present where teh area of the spell is placed. Therefore, its a question of "can I put a hypnotic patern within a wall of force"The rules for area effect:<h3>Targets</h3>...A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect (described below).<h4>A Clear Path to the Target</h4>To target something, you must have a clear path to it, so it can't be behind total cover. If you place an area of effect at a point that you can't see and an obstruction, such as a wall, is between you and that point, the point of origin comes into being on the near side of that obstruction.So the rules for area effects are pretty clear here. Now note....you do not have to be able to see the point you want to target with hypnotic pattern, you can throw it right into a pit of darkness no problem. However, if there is total cover, the spell "goes off early" and expands out from the near side of the wall.So in the case of a wall of force, you can't get the area within the sphere, and so cannot effect targets within the sphere with hypnotic pattern.Now how about Fear? Fear doesn't have targets but has a 30 ft cone area. Can the cone go through the wall of force?The relevant passage is once again found in the section on Area of Effect.<h3>Areas of Effect</h3>...A spell's effect expands in straight lines from the point of origin. If no unblocked straight line extends from the point of origin to a location within the area of effect, that location isn't included in the spell's area. To block one of these imaginary lines, an obstruction must provide total cover.So this passage tells us that a cone cannot bypass total cover, because once you get passed the wall.... the squares no longer have unblocked straight lines back to the point of origin (which is the caster), and so that location isn't included in teh spell's area.</blockquote>

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