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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 950815" data-attributes="member: 545">My apologies if you took offense.For purposes of escaping the dragon, Wall of Force would have worked even better.  There would have been no ambiguity over rules.  No possibility of Dispelling.  And the duration would not have mattered.  9 minutes?  90 minutes?  Who cares?Indoors it is trivial to split off enemies and overwhelm them piecemeal using a Wall of Force.  The fact that the caster can dispel the WoF with an action is an enormous convenience.  The tactics are not precisely the same, but they are analogous.The main strength of WoT is it also effective outdoors because you can drop it on top of opponents.The main weakness of the WoT is that it can be Dispelled unlike the other 5th level wall spells.  WoT is also defeatable by 3rd level spells besides Dispel Magic.  There is Gaseous Form, Blink, and Fly (moving UP will usually get a strong creature out of the wall in 2-3 rounds).Anything going up against 9th level PCs without access to Dispel Magic or similar defensive options is "bringing a knife to a gun fight".  I have seen plenty of powerful creatures totally hosed by 5th level spells.  Wall of Thorns is hardly unique in that respect.</blockquote>