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<blockquote data-quote="Revinor" data-source="post: 4410682" data-attributes="member: 25037"><p>For the sake of argument, let's assume that poor dragon really wants to reach wizard for melee attack, moving in straight line.</p><p><img src="http://dndxml.sourceforge.net/4e/poordragon.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p>Two questions:</p><p></p><p>- how much move points it has to spend to approach wizard (really close, let's forget about reach) ?</p><p>- how much damage it will get in the process ?</p><p></p><p>Blade Barrier - squares are difficult terrain, 3d6+Wis (let's call it BB) damage if creature "enters the barrier's space"</p><p>Wall of Fire - entering a square occupied by the wall costs 3 extra squares of movement, creature that "moves into the wall's space" takes 3d6+Int damage (let's call if WoF)</p><p></p><p></p><p>I can see many way of resolving it. For sure, dragon will take at least 1xBB and 1xWoF damage and spend at least 6 x (1+3) movement points. But:</p><p></p><p>- should difficult terrain from blade barrier be counted extra ? Or only maximum cost for any part of the dragon should count? If it is counted extra, then why dragon is spending 2 points for each normal move (as it is entering 2 normal squares in normal case) ? What if blade barrier overlaps wall of fire ? Will it be then 2+3 per move?</p><p>- what about place where 2 squares of wall of fire are entered per move ? Will it be 1+3+3 or only 1+3 ?</p><p>- what with damage ? Is it counted only when entering the zone, per move or per square? If per move, then having 2 walls (like for first 4 steps here) is a lot more effective than one wide wall ? If per square, then are 'tail' squares of dragon also counting as entering a zone separately ?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Revinor, post: 4410682, member: 25037"] For the sake of argument, let's assume that poor dragon really wants to reach wizard for melee attack, moving in straight line. [IMG]http://dndxml.sourceforge.net/4e/poordragon.jpg[/IMG] Two questions: - how much move points it has to spend to approach wizard (really close, let's forget about reach) ? - how much damage it will get in the process ? Blade Barrier - squares are difficult terrain, 3d6+Wis (let's call it BB) damage if creature "enters the barrier's space" Wall of Fire - entering a square occupied by the wall costs 3 extra squares of movement, creature that "moves into the wall's space" takes 3d6+Int damage (let's call if WoF) I can see many way of resolving it. For sure, dragon will take at least 1xBB and 1xWoF damage and spend at least 6 x (1+3) movement points. But: - should difficult terrain from blade barrier be counted extra ? Or only maximum cost for any part of the dragon should count? If it is counted extra, then why dragon is spending 2 points for each normal move (as it is entering 2 normal squares in normal case) ? What if blade barrier overlaps wall of fire ? Will it be then 2+3 per move? - what about place where 2 squares of wall of fire are entered per move ? Will it be 1+3+3 or only 1+3 ? - what with damage ? Is it counted only when entering the zone, per move or per square? If per move, then having 2 walls (like for first 4 steps here) is a lot more effective than one wide wall ? If per square, then are 'tail' squares of dragon also counting as entering a zone separately ? [/QUOTE]
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