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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5715318" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>The thing is, a wall in that instance refers to a physical wall, not a wall effect.  Thus, the rule "You can see the target if at least one line doesn’t pass through or touch an object or an effect—such as a wall, a thick curtain, or a cloud of fog—that blocks your vision."  (DMG, btw) kicks in.  Are they ANY lines that do not touch the wall of fire?  No.  Therefire the creature inside cannot be seen at all.  The fact the lines also touch the creature is irrelevant, as such lines must do so logically.  It's impossible to not touch the creature with a line going to its corner.  The only question is, therefore:  Does it touch the wall?  Yes.  Therefore that line is eliminated, and when all lines are eliminated, 'cannot be seen' is the only possible answer.</p></blockquote><p></p>