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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 153037" data-attributes="member: 2011">I guess you did not take Sarcasm 101. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Yup. Discern Location automatically gets past Nondetection. The reason it does it because it SAYS it does. Divination spells which do not have this type of caveat do not automatically get past the protection of Nondetection, you must roll the DC first.There can always be an exception to the general rule.Btw, does Discern Location automatically locate a character in an Anti-Magic Shell?Well, it does if you take a literal interpretation of Discern Location. Some DMs might rule, however, that Discern Location cannot penetrate into the Anti-Magic Shell, hence, it cannot do so. I would not rule that way since even normal sight could see a character within the Anti-Magic Shell, but I can see a DM ruling that. I try to not interpret how the magic works, but rather what the magic does.In the case of Nondetection, what it does is stop all divinations unless they themselves have a caveat to bust through it’s protection.Yes it is. Nondetection does not stop Wish. However, I personally think (although this is not a literal interpretation) that Nondetection should stop Detect Magic which is also a universal spell since Detect Magic really is a divination, WotC just screwed up on it by not making it both universal and divination spell.</blockquote>

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