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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shin Okada" data-source="post: 153184" data-attributes="member: 1956">On the original topic, I can think of various way to counter you tactics,*Invisibility PurgeIt is an Evocation spell and thus Nondetection do not work against it. And it is a very, very popular spell.*Snow, Sand, 5 inch depth of water, etc.,This kind of thing can reveal your position. To avoid this, you must fly. That means you need another wand or something.*A guy who have high ListenEven if you are invisible, a man can detect your location by making good listen check. They have 50 % miss chance, but improved Invisibility is not make you completely invulnerable. Beware of Bards, Barbarians, monks, rangers & Rogues. They may have Blind-Fight feat, too.*MonstersThere are a lot of monster which can overcome Improved Invisibility. Some have blind sight, some others have very high listen skill and Blind-Fight feat. Opponent may summon some of it, say, Fiendish Direbat. And some monsters are just immune to negative energy.*Negative Energy ProtectionTypical wand of Enervation only have CL of 7. I think if you are at the level that you can buy all of those wands, opponent cleric can negate your wand of Enervation without difficulty.*Dispel MagicOpponent can use area dispel. He may just dispel Nondetection, or other spells working on you, though.*Ready actionOpponents can cast spell, fire missile weapons, charge, etc., when you shoot Enervation. Counter spelling Enervation, with a wand of Dispel Magic may work, too.*You need 2 turns to prepareAs those spells have relatively short duration, you cannot cast on you 24 hours a day. So you meet an opponent and use two wands (Improved Invisibility & Nondetection) and make you first attack at the 3rd round of the combat. This kind of tactics seems great. But in many occasions, you cannot afford precious 2 rounds for preparation.*Opponent may run/hideClever opponent may run, hide into darkness, etc., when he meat something he cannot attack. Your tactics need so many rounds to kill a opponent, so chance of escape is big. If he (or they) escape, you waste expensive charges of the wands.</blockquote>

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