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<blockquote data-quote="James McMurray" data-source="post: 153729" data-attributes="member: 743">Magus_Jerel: Oops. Oh well, just means I'll have to reword my distinction. Oh well. Stranger things have happened.Gromm: Perhaps you should take a lesson from yourself? Or at least learn to read people's posts before you start sprouting inanities. I (nor anyone else here) have ever said that the spells listed are the only spells nondetection works against. You interpret it as it works against all divination spells. I (and apparently Archer) see the &quot;such as&quot; wording to mean &quot;spells which function as these do.&quot; Basically, nobody is either right or wrong here, because the vagueness of the description leaves room for wiggling. What works for you in your game is all fine and dandy, but you can leave your insults and matter of fact language at the door if you want to carry on a meaningful discussion with someone about issues which are not obviously black and white. You'll find it leads to more people paying attention to what you have to say rather than the way you say it. A forceful personality does not make a winning argument.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James McMurray, post: 153729, member: 743"] Magus_Jerel: Oops. Oh well, just means I'll have to reword my distinction. Oh well. Stranger things have happened. Gromm: Perhaps you should take a lesson from yourself? Or at least learn to read people's posts before you start sprouting inanities. I (nor anyone else here) have ever said that the spells listed are the only spells nondetection works against. You interpret it as it works against all divination spells. I (and apparently Archer) see the "such as" wording to mean "spells which function as these do." Basically, nobody is either right or wrong here, because the vagueness of the description leaves room for wiggling. What works for you in your game is all fine and dandy, but you can leave your insults and matter of fact language at the door if you want to carry on a meaningful discussion with someone about issues which are not obviously black and white. You'll find it leads to more people paying attention to what you have to say rather than the way you say it. A forceful personality does not make a winning argument. [/QUOTE]

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