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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 7392103" data-attributes="member: 2629">Folks, you're stuck in the past.&nbsp; 5E wands are INTENDED to be something more than their 3E and earlier equivalents.&nbsp; There are a few wands that do not require attunement.&nbsp; Those wands are meant to be a bit more like their predecessors.&nbsp; They're not going to have a huge impact on the game, they're a nice power up, but they do not matter too much.Attuned wands, like fear, paralysis, lightning bolts, fireballs, etc...&nbsp; - These are meant to be iconic items.&nbsp; Whether in the hands of a wizard, ranger, cleric or eldritch knight... they're meant to be something that allows the PC to do stuff that other PCs can't.&nbsp; If you follow the DMG guidelines, you could conceivably find one at first level.&nbsp; However, that is unlikely.&nbsp;&nbsp; It is on table G and the Hoard tables for G show up on rolls of 98-100 for each 0-4 level Hoard - you're supposed to find 7 of those.&nbsp; For 5 to 10 level Hoards you get G treasure on rolls of 95-98 - you get 18 of those.&nbsp; For levels 11 to 16 you get them on 75-82 - you get 12 of those.&nbsp; For 17+ it is 69 to 72 and you get eight of those...&nbsp; All in all, you'll roll on the G table between 0 and 15 times, with pretty good odds it will be between 5 and 10 times.&nbsp; Over the career of the PCs.&nbsp; And if we say it will be 10 times, and these types of wands represent only a 4% chance every time you get treasure from that list - so about 25 to 33% of parties will find one or more of these wands during their adventuring career... Most likely in levels 11 to 16.&nbsp; What does all that mean?&nbsp; These wands are iconic, character defining items that are intended to stand out.&nbsp; If you play 8 hours of D&amp;D a week for 4 years, completing one campaign of 20 levels every year (which is the estimated time to reach 20 using the guidelines), you're likely to see about one of these wands found by a PC during that time.&nbsp; Now, if you have a DM that allows you to buy these items, I think it will be more common, but that is up to the DM.&nbsp; In my games you might be able to find a small assortment of rare and even very rare items up for sale - but I usually determine what might be for sale randomly or create new items.&nbsp; I do not let a PC 'order' a rare or rarer item.&nbsp; Most uncommon items can be purchased with some effort, but not the best of them.&nbsp; All of this adds up to my games not worrying about a Wand of Lightning Bolts, Fireballs, Fear or Paralysis.&nbsp; If it is found, the multiple uses per day is a cool and iconic ability of the PC that wields it.&nbsp; I celebrate it with the player.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 7392103, member: 2629"] Folks, you're stuck in the past. 5E wands are INTENDED to be something more than their 3E and earlier equivalents. There are a few wands that do not require attunement. Those wands are meant to be a bit more like their predecessors. They're not going to have a huge impact on the game, they're a nice power up, but they do not matter too much. Attuned wands, like fear, paralysis, lightning bolts, fireballs, etc... - These are meant to be iconic items. Whether in the hands of a wizard, ranger, cleric or eldritch knight... they're meant to be something that allows the PC to do stuff that other PCs can't. If you follow the DMG guidelines, you could conceivably find one at first level. However, that is unlikely. It is on table G and the Hoard tables for G show up on rolls of 98-100 for each 0-4 level Hoard - you're supposed to find 7 of those. For 5 to 10 level Hoards you get G treasure on rolls of 95-98 - you get 18 of those. For levels 11 to 16 you get them on 75-82 - you get 12 of those. For 17+ it is 69 to 72 and you get eight of those... All in all, you'll roll on the G table between 0 and 15 times, with pretty good odds it will be between 5 and 10 times. Over the career of the PCs. And if we say it will be 10 times, and these types of wands represent only a 4% chance every time you get treasure from that list - so about 25 to 33% of parties will find one or more of these wands during their adventuring career... Most likely in levels 11 to 16. What does all that mean? These wands are iconic, character defining items that are intended to stand out. If you play 8 hours of D&D a week for 4 years, completing one campaign of 20 levels every year (which is the estimated time to reach 20 using the guidelines), you're likely to see about one of these wands found by a PC during that time. Now, if you have a DM that allows you to buy these items, I think it will be more common, but that is up to the DM. In my games you might be able to find a small assortment of rare and even very rare items up for sale - but I usually determine what might be for sale randomly or create new items. I do not let a PC 'order' a rare or rarer item. Most uncommon items can be purchased with some effort, but not the best of them. All of this adds up to my games not worrying about a Wand of Lightning Bolts, Fireballs, Fear or Paralysis. If it is found, the multiple uses per day is a cool and iconic ability of the PC that wields it. I celebrate it with the player. [/QUOTE]

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