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<blockquote data-quote="Savage Wombat" data-source="post: 6253830" data-attributes="member: 1932">That fits with my memory of 1st ed, and definitely how it felt like it took forever to make it to 3rd level.&nbsp; It would probably feel less dull and grindy if the pile of coin you had made a significant difference in your equipment.&nbsp; If you started with a short sword and ring mail, but now you've got chain mail, a shield, a long sword and a long bow you'd feel tougher even without new class abilities.I'm not sure I've seen a tendency for modern D&amp;D games (3rd and 4th) to increase in difficulty with level - the challenges are tethered to the party's abilities at the same rate.&nbsp; A 15th level module is just as difficult for the players to overcome as the 3rd level module was.&nbsp;&nbsp; Have you noticed differently?&nbsp;&nbsp; I've wondered whether this should be baked into the rules in some way - 4 level 1 monsters are a &quot;fair&quot; challenge for a 1st level party, but the equivalent fight for 10th level characters would be 5 or 6 level 10 monsters.&nbsp; Or that &quot;level 10&quot; monsters are really more like level 12 compared to the party's combat output.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Savage Wombat, post: 6253830, member: 1932"] That fits with my memory of 1st ed, and definitely how it felt like it took forever to make it to 3rd level. It would probably feel less dull and grindy if the pile of coin you had made a significant difference in your equipment. If you started with a short sword and ring mail, but now you've got chain mail, a shield, a long sword and a long bow you'd feel tougher even without new class abilities. I'm not sure I've seen a tendency for modern D&D games (3rd and 4th) to increase in difficulty with level - the challenges are tethered to the party's abilities at the same rate. A 15th level module is just as difficult for the players to overcome as the 3rd level module was. Have you noticed differently? I've wondered whether this should be baked into the rules in some way - 4 level 1 monsters are a "fair" challenge for a 1st level party, but the equivalent fight for 10th level characters would be 5 or 6 level 10 monsters. Or that "level 10" monsters are really more like level 12 compared to the party's combat output. [/QUOTE]

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