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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6138666">I don't care much for bird people.&nbsp; In my experience they are, as has been pointed out, almost universally just plopped out of nowhere into a setting for no apparent reason.&nbsp; There's no bird-people civilizations(except in forests where they're basically flying elves), there's no bird-people artifacts, there's no bird-people ruins.&nbsp; I mean what feature do bird people have going for them that isn't already covered by some other race?&nbsp; Savage fighters from a desolate land raiding peaceful villages?&nbsp; Orcs.&nbsp; Tree-hugging, nature-loving hippies?&nbsp; Elves.&nbsp; Cultured and developed society?&nbsp; Japanese humans.&nbsp; Isolated but industrious underground society?&nbsp; Dwarves.I just don't see where bird-people(differentiated from non-civilized bird-monsters such as Harpies) fit into the D&amp;D puzzle.&nbsp; Humans, elves, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, even orcs; these races conform to the &quot;what you'd expect to see in a humanoid on a regular basis.&quot;&nbsp; But bird-people don't.&nbsp; It's not simply excess hair or funny teeth or a short/fat/skinny green skin, it's feathers, maybe even wings for arms, beaks, tails, talons for feet.&nbsp; It's jarring.&nbsp; Bird-people are simply so exotic they require a very cosmopolitan setting, or a very exotic one where the &quot;human&quot; model is not the standard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 6138666"] I don't care much for bird people. In my experience they are, as has been pointed out, almost universally just plopped out of nowhere into a setting for no apparent reason. There's no bird-people civilizations(except in forests where they're basically flying elves), there's no bird-people artifacts, there's no bird-people ruins. I mean what feature do bird people have going for them that isn't already covered by some other race? Savage fighters from a desolate land raiding peaceful villages? Orcs. Tree-hugging, nature-loving hippies? Elves. Cultured and developed society? Japanese humans. Isolated but industrious underground society? Dwarves. I just don't see where bird-people(differentiated from non-civilized bird-monsters such as Harpies) fit into the D&D puzzle. Humans, elves, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, even orcs; these races conform to the "what you'd expect to see in a humanoid on a regular basis." But bird-people don't. It's not simply excess hair or funny teeth or a short/fat/skinny green skin, it's feathers, maybe even wings for arms, beaks, tails, talons for feet. It's jarring. Bird-people are simply so exotic they require a very cosmopolitan setting, or a very exotic one where the "human" model is [I]not[/I] the standard. [/QUOTE]

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