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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 6147182" data-attributes="member: 6668292">Swarms are Tiny-sized? Isn't that still about cat-sized (as opposed to Diminutive being about rat-sized), or have they changed sizes? Because a swarm of cat-sized spiders isn't how I'd envision most spider swarms (though I could for even more dangerous swarms). I know that 3.5 lists Tiny as the lowest spider, but the spider swarm is explicitly Diminutive-sized. Surely a swarm counts as "in sufficient numbers?"They've grown to about 4-8 times as large, too, from the looks of it. Well, I could probably adjust to this, but I'm not sure I like it. It means that, in an actual swarm, there are a lot less than if they were Diminutive-sized, which makes the standard swarm rules (half damage, or whatever they use) less likely to apply. In 3.5, for example, you could have 1,500 Diminutive-sized creatures in a swarm, or 300 Tiny-sized creatures. In the spider swarm (4 squares), that's 75 cat-sized creatures per square (Tiny), or 350 rat-sized creatures per square (Diminutive).I think both those numbers could be cut pretty dramatically (or the size expanded), but regardless, how many Tiny-sized creatures should fit per square? If they're Diminutive, you could say probably reasonably abstract "you could hit a few with one attack, but there's too many to do that before they overrun you" when compared to Tiny-sized creatures (since there'd be considerably less per square at that point).More sizes (whether it's by "here's how you scale" or they're in the book) is desirable; I've used giant scorpions up to about Huge-sized. Do we need a swarm of scorpions? Well, why not? I can definitely envision it when I try to, and it's an unsettling sight. I could definitely see using that in a campaign.If you mean "we'll do wasps instead of the other two" then I guess that's a direction you can go. If you mean "they're all about the same, and you an refluff as you want" then I'm going to disagree. They're not the same in the way they attack (paralysis vs. death after a sting vs. biting), their motivations, etc., and that should be reflected by the monster. Mechanics matching the fiction, and all that.Anyways, it wasn't a bad article overall, but there are some stuff that definitely had be scratching my head, or wanting clarifications (like the wasp bit). I certainly don't think we need hornets in the first MM, nor giant termites, etc. As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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