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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gyor" data-source="post: 6179975" data-attributes="member: 6670153">The just because the PC know doesn't mean they can't be fooled. That's the difference between a manipulator and and a manster manipulator, you see it coming, but some how he still fools. Mostly the PCs don't know the dragons goals, doesn't know all the ways the dragons may try to manipulate you, and even when they do know the dragon van still come out on top by gaining control of the variables, or by utilizing principles of Psychology that work weather you see them coming or not or even just do it the brute way and use magic. I also note that a Green Dragon may realize that people are familiar with they're culture and traditions and use those people's knowledge against them by acting in a way that is unexpected and not traditional. Like one Green Dragon who finds out he's expected to kill and eat all non elf fey may see an opportunity and spare the life of a Satyr or Dyrad or Nymph or Pixie to act as a servant or spy knowing no  one would believe it. So in the stereo types thier is an opportunity to throw players for a loop.</blockquote>