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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bogmad" data-source="post: 6155384" data-attributes="member: 6695559">The variety of "generic fantasy orc" I think is pretty broad to the  layman.  Sure, a Warhammer orc might be a pretty specific thing, but you  put it next to a Warcraft orc, FR, or a Dragonlance orc and most people  will still look at it and say "look an orc."   It's only us nerds who  are going to look at an orc in one setting and think how frustrating it  is that this orc is Chaotic Evil instead of Lawful or Neutral Evil, or  whatever.  Honestly, I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between a  Dragonlance and FR orc were you to put two in front of me, and I grew  up playing the games and reading the books.  I think you're overplaying  the degree to which people will feel shoehorned into playing a certain  type of orc if there's a detailed description of what an orc is in the  MM.  It's kind of a weird argument to have with the details we  have so far, really.  All we've been told is that no default setting  will be in place, but we will be getting Forgotten Realms before  anything else.  FR is a pretty generic, albeit detailed, fantasy  setting, so I don't care if the "default" orc matches up with what an  orc looks like in the realms.  Now if you then give me a "non-generic"  fantasy setting like Eberron and orcs are exactly the same I might get  upset.   -Let me make a wild guess and imagine that Eberron orcs will be different than the default "culturally" but look anatomically a lot like orcs across the brand do, perhaps with a different art style.  This won't really bug me or prevent me from putting it next to a warcraft or warhammer orc and still recognize them as the "same" thing.</blockquote>

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