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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6123843" data-attributes="member: 4937">I love the way you are thinking.   As I see it though, the problem is more in common with prosopagnosia.  I'm going to really have to think about that, because I think you could be on to something.   In my universe, Modron's don't appear much, but it is established that Modrons don't believe that they are 'alive' in the sense that most humans would use the term.  Modrons believe that they are machines, and that everything else that is alive in the universe is also just a machine.  (Modrons would respond to the claim that they are constructs by saying, "Isn't everybody?").   Modrons believe that what humanity calls 'Free Will' is simply a defect in their being, the failure to recognize that they are simply machines.  Likewise, that humanity considers the idea of everyone being reduced to a machine horrorfic, they also consider just a flaw in their being.  They are also rather upset with the gods for even creating the Free Peoples (humanity, elves, dwarfs, goblins, etc.) because they believe the Gods overstepped their authority.  One of their goals is to alter the nature of the free peoples so that they recognize their inherent machine nature and are content with it.   The believe that as machines, they should perform like machines - reliably, fulfilling a purpose, without complaint, and without expectation of reward or payment.  This is the modron ideal world, or at least one step on that quest.  The main thing that keeps them from being terrors is that they are held back by their own intensely rational natures.  They are uncertain of their reasoning, and there is a nagging worry that the themselves may have been tainted by the flaw (what they call chaos).   Indeed, there is a nagging worry that thinking that they may have been tainted by the flaw is itself a flaw.  They don't actually 'debate' these issues.  Everyone agrees that this is a problem.  Feeling the need to debate or explain yourself would be evidence of the flaw.  So the modrons are mostly content to catalogue, record, analyze and predict the results of different courses of action that they could take.A really good one though.  I hadn't thought about how exposure to the Slaad or the Modrons might spread their world view, something both are actively trying to do.   I'll have to think about how to represent this mechanically.</blockquote>

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