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<blockquote data-quote="Orius" data-source="post: 6152568" data-attributes="member: 8863">He forgot to mention how the original books said that a DM could allow just about any type of PC, provided it worked its way up from a weaker form, and gained its powers as it leveled.Having rules for the most basic humanoids is good to me.&nbsp; Way back in 2e, I preferred powering up humanoid opponents by giving them class levels through the Complete Book of Humanoids rather than just sticking an extra few HD on them, because they added more challenge to the PCs.&nbsp; I'm not particularly opposed to a player playing something like a goblin either.Ogres as a PC aren't a huge deal to me either, while they're very strong and maybe have more hp, that's about all they got.&nbsp; Easier to balance than something which has at will spell abilities.&nbsp; And powerful things like dragons or fiends are too powerful to keep them in line with the rest of the party unless the DM is running a campaign with these things, say something like 2e's Council of Wyrms.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Orius, post: 6152568, member: 8863"] He forgot to mention how the original books said that a DM could allow just about any type of PC, provided it worked its way up from a weaker form, and gained its powers as it leveled. Having rules for the most basic humanoids is good to me. Way back in 2e, I preferred powering up humanoid opponents by giving them class levels through the [I]Complete Book of Humanoids[/I] rather than just sticking an extra few HD on them, because they added more challenge to the PCs. I'm not particularly opposed to a player playing something like a goblin either. Ogres as a PC aren't a huge deal to me either, while they're very strong and maybe have more hp, that's about all they got. Easier to balance than something which has at will spell abilities. And powerful things like dragons or fiends are too powerful to keep them in line with the rest of the party unless the DM is running a campaign with these things, say something like 2e's Council of Wyrms. [/QUOTE]

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