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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1732895" data-attributes="member: 478">Well, with a wand it would probably work, but you would have to denote the spell level, which normally isn't the case. Also here is an actual difference, unlike what I meant, when the spell level is basically irrelevant to the effect.&nbsp;&nbsp;A wizard could also make the same item with the use of Heighten Spell.&nbsp;&nbsp;If you have a wand of cure moderate wounds, for example, what tells you what the spell level is? 2nd or 3rd? The cost is always based on 2nd level, since this is the &quot;standard level at which the spell is cast&quot;, but it doesn't have to be. And the effect of a 2nd or 3rd level spell is exactly equal.&nbsp;&nbsp;It probably makes sense to base the cost on the lowest spell level at which a particular spell occurs in general. The big question is, can a wizard make a wand of hold monster then? The wand can be made, generally, but do you need a bard for it?&nbsp;&nbsp;Bye&nbsp;Thanee</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1732895, member: 478"] Well, with a wand it would probably work, but you would have to denote the spell level, which normally isn't the case. Also here is an actual difference, unlike what I meant, when the spell level is basically irrelevant to the effect. A wizard could also make the same item with the use of Heighten Spell. If you have a [i]wand of cure moderate wounds[/i], for example, what tells you what the spell level is? 2nd or 3rd? The cost is always based on 2nd level, since this is the "standard level at which the spell is cast", but it doesn't have to be. And the effect of a 2nd or 3rd level spell is exactly equal. It probably makes sense to base the cost on the lowest spell level at which a particular spell occurs in general. The big question is, can a wizard make a [i]wand of hold monster[/i] then? The wand can be made, generally, but do you [i]need[/i] a bard for it? Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]

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