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<blockquote data-quote="dcollins" data-source="post: 1735164" data-attributes="member: 876">It's absolutely different. It's very clear in both the PHB and DMG. Pricing is based on the caster level selected by the creator for potions/scrolls/wands. Pricing is fixed for other types of items.For your example, the answer is &quot;whatever it says in the book for the specific item description&quot;. It's not a potion/scroll/wand, and so needs a specific description in the rulebook. You must be using &quot;Variant: New Magic Items&quot; for the DM to allow it in the game. Therefore you're talking about DMG guidelines, and the real price is whatever the DM decides it's balanced at.Disclaimer: This does get slightly less clear if one accepts the DMG errata erasing the fact that caster levels are fixed for non-potions/scrolls/wands. If you accept that creators can set caster levels for any item, then the answer is &quot;the rules never say exactly what the price would be&quot;. Previously there was a very sharp, simple, strong distinction between the two categories of items. Now, officially, it's a big unknown as far as pricing altered caster level items. In fact it's the primary reason why I believe that errata doesn't make any sense. <a href="http://superdan.net.home.comcast.net/dndfaq2.html" target="_blank">http://superdan.net.home.comcast.net/dndfaq2.html</a></blockquote>

[QUOTE="dcollins, post: 1735164, member: 876"] It's absolutely different. It's very clear in both the PHB and DMG. Pricing is based on the caster level selected by the creator for potions/scrolls/wands. Pricing is fixed for other types of items. For your example, the answer is "whatever it says in the book for the specific item description". It's not a potion/scroll/wand, and so needs a specific description in the rulebook. You must be using "Variant: New Magic Items" for the DM to allow it in the game. Therefore you're talking about DMG guidelines, and the real price is whatever the DM decides it's balanced at. Disclaimer: This does get slightly less clear if one accepts the DMG errata erasing the fact that caster levels are fixed for non-potions/scrolls/wands. If you accept that creators can set caster levels for [i]any[/i] item, then the answer is "the rules never say exactly what the price would be". Previously there was a very sharp, simple, strong distinction between the two categories of items. Now, officially, it's a big unknown as far as pricing altered caster level items. In fact it's the primary reason why I believe that errata doesn't make any sense. [url]http://superdan.net.home.comcast.net/dndfaq2.html[/url] [/QUOTE]

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