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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pogre" data-source="post: 7964379" data-attributes="member: 6588">I agree in some respects, but consider the four character party - Is a rogue worthwhile of one of those spots? That is the question, in a sense, my player has posed. If you can mostly cover that niche with another mainstay (wizard) - then it frees up a slot for a better team player like a monk or bard.As someone pointed out earlier we can quickly delve into white room discussions about a single character, but that is honestly not what my player is doing. They are asking, in the context of a party dynamic, what makes a rogue worthwhile?Please understand I let players play whatever kind of a character they want. It is the player who is more concerned about being an effective and helpful party member.</blockquote>