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<blockquote data-quote="Todd Roybark" data-source="post: 7966758" data-attributes="member: 6920677">The class, seems weak in theory.&nbsp; In flat planes of perfectly smooth 5’ squares, with no features, and monsters that ‘spawn’&nbsp; always in melee range, then yes that ‘terrain* does not help the class to shine.CleverNickName,&nbsp; I don’t mean this rudely at all, but you are missing the*point* of the class. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="😀" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" title="Grinning face&nbsp; &nbsp; :grinning:" data-shortname=":grinning:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />The archetype, the rogue represents is the person that succeeds through their wits.Wildshaping, casting high level spells, etc that is cheating to a skilled, clever person.A Rogue is the type of character that says “*I*beat you!”to their opponents.Not their magic, or their god, or their rage, but them through grit, cunning, clever planning, and having the right tools.I find magic, too appealing myself, so I have never played the class.&nbsp; Playing alongside one, has made me envious of Rogues at times.&nbsp; Yet, it is better to enable the Rogue then to resent them.&nbsp; As a person that has DM’d for multiple, different Rogue Characters, I learned to respect the class.Silence is a Ritual spell, so it might only be a single 2nd level slot.&nbsp; I have never felt a casting of the Silence spell to be a waste.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Todd Roybark, post: 7966758, member: 6920677"] The class, seems weak in theory. In flat planes of perfectly smooth 5’ squares, with no features, and monsters that ‘spawn’ always in melee range, then yes that ‘terrain* does not help the class to shine. CleverNickName, I don’t mean this rudely at all, but you are missing the*point* of the class. 😀 The archetype, the rogue represents is the person that succeeds through their wits. Wildshaping, casting high level spells, etc that is [I]cheating[/I] to a skilled, clever person. A Rogue is the type of character that says “*I*beat you!”to their opponents. Not their magic, or their god, or their rage, but [I]them[/I] through grit, cunning, clever planning, and having the right tools. I find magic, too appealing myself, so I have never played the class. Playing alongside one, has made me [I]envious[/I] of Rogues at times. Yet, it is better to [I]enable[/I] the Rogue then to resent them. As a person that has DM’d for multiple, different Rogue Characters, I learned to [I]respect[/I] the class. Silence is a [I]Ritual[/I] spell, so it might only be a single 2nd level slot. I have never felt a casting of the Silence spell to be a waste. [/QUOTE]

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