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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6928178" data-attributes="member: 15700">Thread like this make me feel like an old grognard, delving into the &quot;get off my lawn&quot; and &quot;back in my day&quot; responses.I think there's a strong correlation between the more niche archetype you want to play, and the time you need to wait for any official support.&nbsp; I will never understand why some people are upset because they can't play their psionic shapeshifting heavily armored battle troll PC as an official character type.&nbsp; At some point people need to understand we aren't entitled to anything, really, and a business needs to focus on the majority first.I also don't understand one of the first counter arguments to 3PP--&quot;most DMs are RAW only and won't allow...&quot;&nbsp; Do people not play with the same gaming groups anymore?&nbsp; Are there only pick up games that are played?&nbsp; I'm not trying to be dismissive, honestly.&nbsp; But I have a hard time grasping that complaint because 90% of all the gaming I do, I know the other players.&nbsp; And it's never been difficult to just sit down with a DM and talk about what I want and how can we make it work in his or her campaign.&nbsp; I'm pretty old school, but I am totally open to newer character concepts and using 3PP as long as I can review it first.&nbsp; Heck, D&amp;D was reliant on homebrew, 3PP, and gamers creating their own material for decades.&nbsp; That is what is old school--coming up with your own stuff.&nbsp; So to me, when someone complains about not having their concept, my first reaction is, &quot;what's stopping you from creating it yourself with your DM?&quot;The parent in me also comes out lol.&nbsp; Just like when one of my kids complains about not being able to do something, I feel the same answer emerging, &quot;No, there are plenty of solutions.&nbsp; Here are a few.&nbsp; Just because you don't want to, doesn't mean the solution isn't there.&nbsp; After shooting down every solution I've given, I'm starting to wonder if you're just looking for excuses to complain and not do it.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; Teenagers.... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6928178, member: 15700"] Thread like this make me feel like an old grognard, delving into the "get off my lawn" and "back in my day" responses. I think there's a strong correlation between the more niche archetype you want to play, and the time you need to wait for any official support. I will never understand why some people are upset because they can't play their psionic shapeshifting heavily armored battle troll PC as an official character type. At some point people need to understand we aren't entitled to anything, really, and a business needs to focus on the majority first. I also don't understand one of the first counter arguments to 3PP--"most DMs are RAW only and won't allow..." Do people not play with the same gaming groups anymore? Are there only pick up games that are played? I'm not trying to be dismissive, honestly. But I have a hard time grasping that complaint because 90% of all the gaming I do, I [I]know[/I] the other players. And it's never been difficult to just sit down with a DM and talk about what I want and how can we make it work in his or her campaign. I'm pretty old school, but I am totally open to newer character concepts and using 3PP as long as I can review it first. Heck, D&D was [I]reliant[/I] on homebrew, 3PP, and gamers creating their own material for decades. [I]That[/I] is what is old school--coming up with your own stuff. So to me, when someone complains about not having their concept, my first reaction is, "what's stopping you from creating it yourself with your DM?" The parent in me also comes out lol. Just like when one of my kids complains about not being able to do something, I feel the same answer emerging, "No, there are plenty of solutions. Here are a few. Just because you don't want to, doesn't mean the solution isn't there. After shooting down every solution I've given, I'm starting to wonder if you're just looking for excuses to complain and not do it." Teenagers.... ;) [/QUOTE]

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