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<blockquote data-quote="ccs" data-source="post: 6928549" data-attributes="member: 6803664">How do you get the Unseen Servant to drag the Disc in 3x?&nbsp; In PF?&nbsp; Especially core only?&nbsp;Concerning DMing/playing with the same people....No, I'm not lucky in that aspect, I'm in the norm.&nbsp; You though appear to be unlucky....<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />If there's people who're willing to play Vampire in groups, &amp; are willing to play the occasional D&amp;D game, have you tried to get a few of them to form a consistent D&amp;D group?&nbsp; Even if you only play on the occasional basis? &nbsp;5e is no less generic &amp; flexible than any other edition.&nbsp; The whole game (D&amp;D of whatever edition) is built upon making things up &amp; adding them to your games.&nbsp; The printed rules are NOT the be-all/end-all.&nbsp; Though you will definitely find DMs who're afraid to do so.&nbsp; Especially ones who grew up with 3x/PF, a constant barrage of books &amp; worse constant doses of errata.&nbsp; They've been conditioned not to think for themselves.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ccs, post: 6928549, member: 6803664"] How do you get the Unseen Servant to drag the Disc in 3x? In PF? Especially core only? Concerning DMing/playing with the same people.... No, I'm not lucky in that aspect, I'm in the norm. You though appear to be[B] un[/B]lucky....:( If there's people who're willing to play Vampire in groups, & are willing to play the occasional D&D game, have you tried to get a few of them to form a consistent D&D group? Even if you only play on the occasional basis? 5e is no less generic & flexible than any other edition. The whole game (D&D of whatever edition) is built upon making things up & adding them to your games. The printed rules are NOT the be-all/end-all. Though you will definitely find DMs who're afraid to do so. Especially ones who grew up with 3x/PF, a constant barrage of books & worse constant doses of errata. They've been conditioned not to think for themselves. [/QUOTE]

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