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<blockquote data-quote="ccs" data-source="post: 6930359" data-attributes="member: 6803664">Most of what you want from your composite is easily doable as a sorceress. *Fighting with a spear (or other weapon not on your &quot;list&quot;) - anyone can do this.&nbsp; You just don't get to add your prof. bonus....&nbsp; You can just accept that, put a few more points into Str., ask DM if they mind you swapping/adding spear to your list (say in place of 1/4staff), try &amp; lay hands on a magic spear, just use a staff - and describe it as having a spear head that you never stab anyone with &amp; never throw (the weapons do the same damage except for one bludgeoning &amp; ones piercing)* The familiar &amp; the floating disc.&nbsp; Neither is on the Sorcerer spell list.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />&nbsp; So Mechanically wich one is more important to you?&nbsp; Take that one via Magic Initiate (from wizard list).&nbsp; I make the assumption here that feats are in play &amp; that you're a variant human so that you can get one of them at 1st lv.&nbsp; (Floating Disc can be gained later via Ritual Caster)* If mechanics aren't the driving concern with the familiar &amp; Disc?&nbsp; Then perhaps you could achieve them by using the variant Noble background.&nbsp; V.Noble gives you 3 non-combatant NPC retainers. Well, what if for one of them you took a talking raven?&nbsp; And for the second you took an odd looking mount that looked like &amp; had all the limitations of a Floating Disc (except you could ride it)?&nbsp; Give it the stats of a mule or something if stats are required.....&nbsp; The 3rd follower?&nbsp; An invisible, mute guy who's only function is to pull/push the Disc mount. * Of course if you can find a reasonable DM you might just ask them if you can add the missing spells to the Sorc list. * And yes, I know you claim to hate the Wizard class, particularly because of the spell book.&nbsp; But if you &amp; a DM could re-stile that spell book?&nbsp; Then I think that'll open up a lot of options for you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ccs, post: 6930359, member: 6803664"] Most of what you want from your composite is easily doable as a sorceress. *Fighting with a spear (or other weapon not on your "list") - anyone can do this. You just don't get to add your prof. bonus.... You can just accept that, put a few more points into Str., ask DM if they mind you swapping/adding spear to your list (say in place of 1/4staff), try & lay hands on a magic spear, just use a staff - and describe it as having a spear head that you never stab anyone with & never throw (the weapons do the same damage except for one bludgeoning & ones piercing) * The familiar & the floating disc. Neither is on the Sorcerer spell list.:( So Mechanically wich one is more important to you? Take that one via Magic Initiate (from wizard list). I make the assumption here that feats are in play & that you're a variant human so that you can get one of them at 1st lv. (Floating Disc can be gained later via Ritual Caster) * If mechanics aren't the driving concern with the familiar & Disc? Then perhaps you could achieve them by using the variant Noble background. V.Noble gives you 3 non-combatant NPC retainers. Well, what if for one of them you took a talking raven? And for the second you took an odd looking mount that looked like & had all the limitations of a Floating Disc (except you could ride it)? Give it the stats of a mule or something if stats are required..... The 3rd follower? An invisible, mute guy who's only function is to pull/push the Disc mount. * Of course if you can find a reasonable DM you might just ask them if you can add the missing spells to the Sorc list. * And yes, I know you claim to hate the Wizard class, particularly because of the spell book. But if you & a DM could re-stile that spell book? Then I think that'll open up a lot of options for you. [/QUOTE]

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