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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6900964" data-attributes="member: 6787650">Consider on the other hand that the &quot;spells and boons&quot; granted by &quot;the gods&quot; are subject to a Dispel Magic spell from a regular old wizard. Even the most secret of the secret &quot;holy&quot; rites can be learned by a Lore Bard, and it works all the same, even with no god powering it. These things don't in any way behave like divine manifestations. They behave exactly like all the other magical and non-magical tools that PCs have access to on a regular basis, right down to the refresh rate (short rest or long rest). It doesn't take a hyperphysicist to suspect that there's some shared underlying causal mechanism there. Bards and wizards should be the most skeptical of the skeptics when it comes to the divinity of the so-called gods in D&amp;D.If I show you an advanced AI and holographic unit with capabilities in excess of but not qualitatively different from the technology that you use on a day-to-day basis, how would you rate my chances of persuading you that I'm actually a divine being worthy of your &quot;worship,&quot; however it is that I define worship?&quot;Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6900964, member: 6787650"] Consider on the other hand that the "spells and boons" granted by "the gods" are subject to a Dispel Magic spell from a regular old wizard. Even the most secret of the secret "holy" rites can be learned by a Lore Bard, and it works all the same, even with no god powering it. These things don't in any way behave like divine manifestations. They behave exactly like all the other magical and non-magical tools that PCs have access to on a regular basis, right down to the refresh rate (short rest or long rest). It doesn't take a hyperphysicist to suspect that there's some shared underlying causal mechanism there. Bards and wizards should be the most skeptical of the skeptics when it comes to the divinity of the so-called gods in D&D. If I show you an advanced AI and holographic unit with capabilities in excess of but not qualitatively different from the technology that you use on a day-to-day basis, how would you rate my chances of persuading you that I'm actually a divine being worthy of your "worship," however it is that I define worship? "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" [/QUOTE]

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