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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6901477" data-attributes="member: 6787650">Well, not exactly the opposite. That's like saying the opposite of the middle is the end: it's kind of true, if you squint, but most people would say that the opposite of the end is the other end.Faith is an intermediate state--it is the belief in things which are not seen, which are true. As such, there is fundamentally no difference between D&amp;D and real life when it comes to epistemology; the inhabitants of a D&amp;D world can be as certain or uncertain about their reality as you or I. (Non-religious example: when a D&amp;D character reasons &quot;cogito, ergo sum&quot;, is his logic invalid? But his conclusion is wrong.) The only difference is that the DM is in a position to objectively evaluate whose faith is grounded in reality and whose is founded on falsehood; but the DM's knowledge isn't shared by the PCs or NPCs.The point is, religion is not opposed to certainty. Some religions actively seek it. &quot;...and [after witnessing proof] he had faith no longer, for he knew, nothing doubting.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6901477, member: 6787650"] Well, not exactly the opposite. That's like saying the opposite of the middle is the end: it's kind of true, if you squint, but most people would say that the opposite of the end is the other end. Faith is an intermediate state--it is the belief in things which are not seen, which are true. As such, there is fundamentally no difference between D&D and real life when it comes to epistemology; the inhabitants of a D&D world can be as certain or uncertain about their reality as you or I. (Non-religious example: when a D&D character reasons "cogito, ergo sum", is his logic invalid? But his conclusion is wrong.) The only difference is that the DM is in a position to objectively evaluate whose faith is grounded in reality and whose is founded on falsehood; but the DM's knowledge isn't shared by the PCs or NPCs. The point is, religion is not opposed to certainty. Some religions actively seek it. "...and [after witnessing proof] he had faith no longer, for he knew, nothing doubting." [/QUOTE]

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