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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1284508" data-attributes="member: 707">*sigh*  I'd start an argument over the use of the word "logical" here, but I'm already doing one in another thread, so I'll leave it be.Instead, let me point out again that the original poster was the one who set the guidelines for the discussion.  The concept in question is that war is evil in any and all circumstances.  That even justified war is still evil.I'm not arguing that you cannot support a paradigm which encompasses both war as an abstract evil, and war as a justifiable non-evil act.  My arguments were made with regards to the original premise, that war, however necessary, is inherently evil.So,Given: War, even when necessary, is always an evil act.Given: A nation that defends itself from an invader is, by definition, engaged in war.Thus: A nation that defends itself from an invader is committing an evil act.You seem to be arguing against the given, that war, even when necessary, is always an evil act.  I'm on your side there.  I don't agree that war, even when necessary, is always an evil act.  But the original post set the parameters for the discussion, so I did my best to follow those guidelines when framing my response.Elder-Basilisk:  Interesting stuff.  Are you a philosopher?</blockquote>