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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 1290688" data-attributes="member: 8439"><p>however, in many ethical systems, allowing others to be killed is evil...</p><p></p><p>Good people can do things that could be considered evil, if all other alternatives are worse. I think some of the adjectives thrown around this thread (decadent, tyranical) to try to describe the societies which might grow up under the worldveiw suggested are way off the mark. They can still go to war if all other options have failed and they can still win, and they can even respect those who fought in the war - as long as those who fought mourn the enemy dead with their own and take no pride or trophies from their fighting.</p><p></p><p>Also, the philosophy is only being put up against truely unprovoked invasions by the fundementally evil. And how realistic are those really? Sure its a staple of fantasy and GI Joe, but its actually pretty silly. A society which saw war as a great evil would only have survived if they behaved in ways which prevented war in the first place. To perhaps expand on what Barsoomcore was saying, if a horde of nasty barbarians sweep in from the desert, isn't that because you have allowed them to be trapped in a lifeless desert which they eventually MUST try to escape from? If your neighbor tries to annex your lovely river port, can't that be seen in part because you allowed the river port to become a key in how well off your or your neighbor could be?</p><p></p><p>Wars don't start because one side is evil, or because some punk assassinated the ArchDuke of Austria. In a world (an entire world, was the impression I got) where war was seen as a (sometimes neccassary) evil, many of the wars we take for granted would likely never have been fought. Obviously you'd have to ease up on the prevelance of inherently evil races, but I can't say I'd miss them... </p><p></p><p>Kahuna burger</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 1290688, member: 8439"] however, in many ethical systems, allowing others to be killed is evil... Good people can do things that could be considered evil, if all other alternatives are worse. I think some of the adjectives thrown around this thread (decadent, tyranical) to try to describe the societies which might grow up under the worldveiw suggested are way off the mark. They can still go to war if all other options have failed and they can still win, and they can even respect those who fought in the war - as long as those who fought mourn the enemy dead with their own and take no pride or trophies from their fighting. Also, the philosophy is only being put up against truely unprovoked invasions by the fundementally evil. And how realistic are those really? Sure its a staple of fantasy and GI Joe, but its actually pretty silly. A society which saw war as a great evil would only have survived if they behaved in ways which prevented war in the first place. To perhaps expand on what Barsoomcore was saying, if a horde of nasty barbarians sweep in from the desert, isn't that because you have allowed them to be trapped in a lifeless desert which they eventually MUST try to escape from? If your neighbor tries to annex your lovely river port, can't that be seen in part because you allowed the river port to become a key in how well off your or your neighbor could be? Wars don't start because one side is evil, or because some punk assassinated the ArchDuke of Austria. In a world (an entire world, was the impression I got) where war was seen as a (sometimes neccassary) evil, many of the wars we take for granted would likely never have been fought. Obviously you'd have to ease up on the prevelance of inherently evil races, but I can't say I'd miss them... Kahuna burger [/QUOTE]
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