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<blockquote data-quote="Angelus789" data-source="post: 5291618" data-attributes="member: 89505"><p><strong>3.5ed and character level 18+</strong></p><p></p><p>One thing I learned during 2nd edition was that wars between hundreds or thousands of creatures does sound pretty awesome! Hey, we've all seen the big battles from Lord of the Rings, Gladiator and Alexander, right? </p><p>Which Dungeons and Dragons player haven't had a secret dream about leading thousands of men into the heart of Thay, or to lay siege to Cormyr? </p><p></p><p>All this is a really nice fantasy... until you, as a GM, realize that...</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the wizard of the party has enough spell slots to chain-nuke <em>Fireballs</em> for the next 70 rounds</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the cleric can <em>Gate</em> in Balors</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the fighter of the party has DR 10/-, Greater Cleave and magical items with <em>Enlarge Person</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the party as a whole have a note saying "I owe you one!" from Halaster, Alustriel Silverhand and Elminster</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the party has played through the 2nd edition adventure named <strong>For Duty and Deity</strong> and is playing the "We saved your Goddess!" for all it's worth</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the amassed raw GPs of the party is a 8-figure number</li> </ul><p></p><p>For good or worse, this is what you can end up with by playing with the same group for 6+ years</p><p></p><p>If you are one of those that are saying "Hey, that's your own fault that it came to this!". Well, all GMs run their different style.</p><p></p><p>BUT, enough of that... over to the story.</p><p></p><p><strong>The background</strong></p><p>One of the players (a fighter) is the Lord of a Large Town just on the southern edge of the Stormhorn mountains and has been there for the last couple of years. One day he announces that he wants to bring his army (about 200 archers, 120 heavy cavalry, 600 heavy infantry and 300 light) out into battle. </p><p></p><p>I've been playing with this guy since 2nd edition and know that what he means is that he wants to conquer a nearby city. O'headache! </p><p></p><p>A quick summary: </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">one of his previous campaigns have left Scornubel in ashes</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">in the same campaign he have angered the Lord of Elturel</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">he has a good standing with the Kingdom of Cormyr due to some adventuring in said country</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the Harpers view him as suspicious due to his dealings with the Zentharims</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the Zentharims view him as an enemy after the party raided Darkhold Keep</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">he is on good terms with the efm wiz I've written about previously </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">he is on good terms with the clergy of Tyr, due to significant donations to the church</li> </ul><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the player isn't in the possession of any Artifacts or special magical items (his level considered)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">he has an ally up north, Baroness Sarwin from the adventure <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/oa/20041225a" target="_blank">The Thunder Below</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the player, as a person, is interested in military history and tactics, however as he has always been a Warrior-focused player he does not see the potential of spellcasters</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">as a high level character with the feat Leadership he has a loyal cohort who oversees the day-to-day operation of his army</li> </ul><p></p><p>Some information about the PC is now on the table. </p><p></p><p><em><strong>"Know thy enemy!"</strong></em></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">- Sun Tzu or some other dude who knows way more about warfare than me</span></p><p></p><p>I consider it VITAL for the GM to have a good and clear understanding on who the allies and enemies of PCs, especially when they start brewing for war. As in all successful adventures a proper planning and preparation without over-planning has a direct effect on the final outcome. </p><p></p><p>Some of the experienced GMs can probably already see several possibilities for a war game based on the information above. I'd love to hear some ideas from the rest of you guys on what you would have done in my place.</p><p></p><p>Next time I'll go in depth on the setup of his army.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Angelus789, post: 5291618, member: 89505"] [b]3.5ed and character level 18+[/b] One thing I learned during 2nd edition was that wars between hundreds or thousands of creatures does sound pretty awesome! Hey, we've all seen the big battles from Lord of the Rings, Gladiator and Alexander, right? Which Dungeons and Dragons player haven't had a secret dream about leading thousands of men into the heart of Thay, or to lay siege to Cormyr? All this is a really nice fantasy... until you, as a GM, realize that... [LIST] [*]the wizard of the party has enough spell slots to chain-nuke [I]Fireballs[/I] for the next 70 rounds [*]the cleric can [I]Gate[/I] in Balors [*]the fighter of the party has DR 10/-, Greater Cleave and magical items with [I]Enlarge Person[/I] [*]the party as a whole have a note saying "I owe you one!" from Halaster, Alustriel Silverhand and Elminster [*]the party has played through the 2nd edition adventure named [B]For Duty and Deity[/B] and is playing the "We saved your Goddess!" for all it's worth [*]the amassed raw GPs of the party is a 8-figure number [/LIST] For good or worse, this is what you can end up with by playing with the same group for 6+ years If you are one of those that are saying "Hey, that's your own fault that it came to this!". Well, all GMs run their different style. BUT, enough of that... over to the story. [B]The background[/B] One of the players (a fighter) is the Lord of a Large Town just on the southern edge of the Stormhorn mountains and has been there for the last couple of years. One day he announces that he wants to bring his army (about 200 archers, 120 heavy cavalry, 600 heavy infantry and 300 light) out into battle. I've been playing with this guy since 2nd edition and know that what he means is that he wants to conquer a nearby city. O'headache! A quick summary: [LIST] [*]one of his previous campaigns have left Scornubel in ashes [*]in the same campaign he have angered the Lord of Elturel [*]he has a good standing with the Kingdom of Cormyr due to some adventuring in said country [*]the Harpers view him as suspicious due to his dealings with the Zentharims [*]the Zentharims view him as an enemy after the party raided Darkhold Keep [*]he is on good terms with the efm wiz I've written about previously [*]he is on good terms with the clergy of Tyr, due to significant donations to the church [/LIST] [LIST] [*]the player isn't in the possession of any Artifacts or special magical items (his level considered) [*]he has an ally up north, Baroness Sarwin from the adventure [URL="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/oa/20041225a"]The Thunder Below[/URL] [*]the player, as a person, is interested in military history and tactics, however as he has always been a Warrior-focused player he does not see the potential of spellcasters [*]as a high level character with the feat Leadership he has a loyal cohort who oversees the day-to-day operation of his army [/LIST] Some information about the PC is now on the table. [I][B]"Know thy enemy!"[/B][/I] [SIZE="1"]- Sun Tzu or some other dude who knows way more about warfare than me[/SIZE] I consider it VITAL for the GM to have a good and clear understanding on who the allies and enemies of PCs, especially when they start brewing for war. As in all successful adventures a proper planning and preparation without over-planning has a direct effect on the final outcome. Some of the experienced GMs can probably already see several possibilities for a war game based on the information above. I'd love to hear some ideas from the rest of you guys on what you would have done in my place. Next time I'll go in depth on the setup of his army. [/QUOTE]
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