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<blockquote data-quote="Lylandra" data-source="post: 7307853" data-attributes="member: 6816692"><p>Yep, I'm also a fan of teamwork a la PF teamwork feats or the 4e leader types or buffing allies as with the bardic inspiration or your take on the commander.</p><p></p><p>I don't know exactly how 5e Zeitgeist handles the theme feats (they were bonus feats in PF), but giving the Gate Pass background features as a bonus for those who'd like to integrate into the city's factions sounds like a good plan. It offers players an incentive to tie their characters to Gate Pass, whereas a simple option might get ignored. </p><p></p><p><strong>Feats:</strong></p><p>Ah, totally forgot that shocking grasp is a cantrip in 5e. My bad, I assumed it was a 1st level spell. </p><p></p><p>For West Wind/East Wind style: As feats they work just fine and follow the original idea of providing an option for monk multiclass characters. Making them monk traditions could also work within the story if they'd get some sort of casting progression (arcane for East Wind, divine for West Wind) to keep the hybrid aspect of both schools as Pilus is monk/sorcerer and Longinus is monk/cleric (specialized in divination). </p><p></p><p>I also just thought that the 17 Cha for Legendary Leader is pretty hard to obtain for any non-cha user, especially when feats replace your ability increases and you're playing with arrays or low-medium point buy. In 3.5 and PF ability increasing items were quite common and I don't know if this is still the case in 5e with its limit on how many items you can bond to a character. </p><p></p><p>And yes, the Leadership Performance as prereq for the other leader feats makes sense</p><p></p><p>I'm still not really sure about the Necrotic and Primal Leader as I don't have the experience of how many minions a Necro or a Summoner Druid will command on average. To have an effective feat, I suppose that they would need at least as many minions as they have party members who are neither undead nor animals (the original number of targets the Leadership Performance would affect). What's also to be considered is the fact that other summoned creatures, like elementals or outsiders, can be affected by just using Leadership Performance without requiring another feat. Plus Druids and Rangers might not have the best Cha scores anyway.</p><p></p><p>What I meant with "entirely cha based" was referencing to the following part of Leadership Performance: "You can use your leadership performances between short or long rests a number of times equal to your <em>spellcasting ability modifier</em>".</p><p>I would change the last paragraph to Charisma modifier, because martial characters don't have a spellcasting ability modifier. </p><p></p><p><strong>Commander</strong></p><p>Mh, could you not replace one specific fighter ASI with Leadership Performance? Or am I thinking too much in terms of Pathfinder archetypes here? Because the way the archetype is written right now, Leadership Performance is kind of mandatory (and rightfully so) without explicitly stating it. </p><p></p><p>Oh and one more thing: Am I correct to assume that the Seela race will be covered in the Campaign Guide? I remember hinting at a "fey race that once lived in the Fire Forest" and some members of that race living in Gate Pass, but decided to hand my players more info should they be interested in playing one. So I guess it might best be put into the DM's hands.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lylandra, post: 7307853, member: 6816692"] Yep, I'm also a fan of teamwork a la PF teamwork feats or the 4e leader types or buffing allies as with the bardic inspiration or your take on the commander. I don't know exactly how 5e Zeitgeist handles the theme feats (they were bonus feats in PF), but giving the Gate Pass background features as a bonus for those who'd like to integrate into the city's factions sounds like a good plan. It offers players an incentive to tie their characters to Gate Pass, whereas a simple option might get ignored. [B]Feats:[/B] Ah, totally forgot that shocking grasp is a cantrip in 5e. My bad, I assumed it was a 1st level spell. For West Wind/East Wind style: As feats they work just fine and follow the original idea of providing an option for monk multiclass characters. Making them monk traditions could also work within the story if they'd get some sort of casting progression (arcane for East Wind, divine for West Wind) to keep the hybrid aspect of both schools as Pilus is monk/sorcerer and Longinus is monk/cleric (specialized in divination). I also just thought that the 17 Cha for Legendary Leader is pretty hard to obtain for any non-cha user, especially when feats replace your ability increases and you're playing with arrays or low-medium point buy. In 3.5 and PF ability increasing items were quite common and I don't know if this is still the case in 5e with its limit on how many items you can bond to a character. And yes, the Leadership Performance as prereq for the other leader feats makes sense I'm still not really sure about the Necrotic and Primal Leader as I don't have the experience of how many minions a Necro or a Summoner Druid will command on average. To have an effective feat, I suppose that they would need at least as many minions as they have party members who are neither undead nor animals (the original number of targets the Leadership Performance would affect). What's also to be considered is the fact that other summoned creatures, like elementals or outsiders, can be affected by just using Leadership Performance without requiring another feat. Plus Druids and Rangers might not have the best Cha scores anyway. What I meant with "entirely cha based" was referencing to the following part of Leadership Performance: "You can use your leadership performances between short or long rests a number of times equal to your [I]spellcasting ability modifier[/I]". I would change the last paragraph to Charisma modifier, because martial characters don't have a spellcasting ability modifier. [B]Commander[/B] Mh, could you not replace one specific fighter ASI with Leadership Performance? Or am I thinking too much in terms of Pathfinder archetypes here? Because the way the archetype is written right now, Leadership Performance is kind of mandatory (and rightfully so) without explicitly stating it. Oh and one more thing: Am I correct to assume that the Seela race will be covered in the Campaign Guide? I remember hinting at a "fey race that once lived in the Fire Forest" and some members of that race living in Gate Pass, but decided to hand my players more info should they be interested in playing one. So I guess it might best be put into the DM's hands. [/QUOTE]
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